Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #39518
From: Chuck Jensen <cjensen@dts9000.com>
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Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Pinpoint
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:27:37 -0500
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 Brent Regan writes...
 
Secrecy and honesty are not associated traits. Everyone has secrets and everyone is dishonest (Honey, do these pants make me look fat?), the only question is degree. Twenty years ago I designed a servo hydraulic telemanipulator (robotic arm) that ran on heavy water and glycol. It was deployed into the core of a heavy water nuclear reactor to clean up a shattered fuel rod. Due to geo-political concerns, I was required to keep the project secret for a period of time and, in an honest fashion, I did so.

In my experience, people see the world through the lens of their own experience. People who see "vast conspiracies" and "dishonesty" wherever they look do so because that is how they think. They are themselves conspiratorial and dishonest and apply those metrics in evaluating the behavior of others.

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You designed some little tool that was used at a heavy water reactor...I operated a heavy water reactor for 10 years.  When handled 97% enriched fuel, which we kept secret.  Where we being dishonest.  No, simply expediant as there was good reason and common cause for doing so.  However, that situation is in no way analogous with being secretive about associations, affiliations, relationships and conflicted interests where this matter of Chelton, Pinpoint D2A is concerned.
 
So, what does that mean--probably nothing.  I concur that we all see the world through the lens of our own experience.  However, because someone sees an event and perceives it to be possibly conspiratorial or dishonest is based on experience, i.e., if a it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...it's probably a duck.  This truly is viewing the world through a lens of experience.
 
What you meant to say was that dishonest and conspiratorial people tend to see the world and events around them as being dishonest and conspiratorial because they are reflective, or self-reflective.  I can assure you that I'm troubled, as others may be, by these most recent events because of the secrecy I see, not because I'm a secretive person, but I've seen this same secretive behavior many times before and rarely has honest and honorable intent been involved.  Hopefully, this will be an exception. 
 
Brent, you could save all of us a lot of time, speculating, wondering, concern and doubt if you just came clean with everyone and spell out, in a straightforward and frank manner, who you work for, what your relationships are, what your financial interests are and who you aren't involved with.  Why should you do this....quite simply, when one takes a position is a sordid affair of this matter and imply or state specific, unique knowledge and information and required that everyone else simply has to take your word for it...well, you owe it to people to be straightforward about where you're coming from, what's your agenda and where your conflicts of interest lie. 
 
If you are unwilling to do this honorable thing, then limit or eliminate postings that are long on opinions and void of facts.  Inquiring minds don't even care any more.
 
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