X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 1 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 12:01:51 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.70] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.4) with ESMTP id 1758516 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:50:22 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.70; envelope-from=paulhershorin@bellsouth.net Received: from ibm65aec.bellsouth.net ([192.168.16.253]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20070114164929.VNJI3005.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm65aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:49:29 -0500 Received: from mail.bellsouth.net ([192.168.16.253]) by ibm65aec.bellsouth.net with SMTP id <20070114164929.GISJ9460.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:49:29 -0500 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.16.1 (webedge20-101-1106-101-20040924) X-Originating-IP: [65.9.215.220] From: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: Re: [LML] Soft Field procedures LNC2/LIV X-Original-Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 11:49:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Original-Message-Id: <20070114164929.GISJ9460.ibm65aec.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Bill and Sue----Thanks so very much for this. Paul Hershorin LNC2 471LA > > From: "Marvin Kaye" > Date: 2007/01/12 Fri PM 05:10:38 EST > To: lml > Subject: [LML] Soft Field procedures LNC2/LIV > > > > Posted for "Bill&Sue" <5zq@cox.net>: > > Hi Paul, > > Our soft field procedures are pretty much the standard procedures taught in > 150's forever. The Lancairs, especially the LNC2s do require that you be > aware of, and ready for it's unique characteristics. I've highlighted Lancair > specific stuff with asterisks (***) > > > For a soft field takeoff: > > 1. Be light. We avoid soft fields when heavy. A little planning here goes a > long way. > 2. Have a CG a bit toward the aft side. We generally make our soft field > takeoffs and landings with 5 gallons or so in the header. > 3. Use a bit more flap than you would normally use. Normally, we match the > flap to full aileron deflection. For soft fields we lower another inch. > 4. Start the takeoff roll with full aft elevator. > 5. Keep full elevator until the nose leaves the ground. > ***Here's where it's a lot different from spam cans. We sit relatively > further back in the fuselage compared to, say, a 172. When the nose comes up > your forward vision will be completely gone. BE READY for this and have your > vision already concentrated at the left side of the runway. > ***Our Lancairs are quite overpowered compared to most GA airplanes. When > the nose leaves the ground there will be a lot of "p"factor induced. It's > going to take a LOT of right rudder with full power and the nose in the air at > 40 knots. Don't wait until you're getting a great view of the bushes on the > left side of the runway. BE READY to add considerable right rudder BEFORE > your heading changes. > ***On the LNC2's, especially with the small tail, the elevator > effectiveness increases DRAMATICALLY just as the nose leaves the ground. > Because of the aft CG it will be even less stable than usuall. BE READY to > release some back pressure fairly quickly as the nose leaves the ground. On > your first several trys, you'll probably release too much back pressure and > the nose will come back down on the runway, then, you'll pull back to much and > the nose will be too high. It takes a bit of practice to get this down. I'd > suggest that you make your first trys on wide smooth runways, preferably with > a Lancair pilot who is experienced with this technique providing example and > instruction. > 6. Hold the nosewheel just clear of the ground until you're airborne. > 7. Once airborne, lower the nose so as to remain just above the runway while > you gain speed. Keep the gear down. You'll still need quite a bit of right > rudder. When you gain sufficient speed (we use 80 knots) begin your climb and > retract your gear as you normally would. As you accelerate, reduce the right > rudder. > ***Here again your initial tendency will be to over control the elevator. > You want to stay airborne but not climb until you've got a safe airspeed. This > will take some practice to get it right. > 8. Transition to normal climb, retract flaps on schedule. Start pumping fuel > into the header. > > > For a soft field landing: > > 1. Be light. (see #1 above) > 2. Aft CG (see #2 above) > 3. Use full flap. > 4. Use a slower approach speed (we use around 75 knots) and power as > necessary for a precise, controlled approach with a sink rate of 5-700 fpm. > 5. Make a full stall landing (easier said than done). > ***Your forward vision will be completely gone. Have your vision > concentrated on the left side of the runway several hundred feet ahead of the > plane BEFORE you loose sight of the runway ahead. > ***Avoid overcontroling the elevator (takes a bit of practice). > 6. After touchdown attempt to keep the nosewheel off the ground for as long > as possible. You should have full aft elevator as the nosewheel touches the > ground. > 7. Continue the rollout with full aft elevator. > > > These techniques have served us well. They work. I would, however, strongly > suggest that before you think about soft fields, you are very comfortable with > normal procedures in your Lancair. If you don't have at least 100 hours or so > in your plane, I'd postpone soft field work until you do. Try to find an > experienced Lancair pilot or instructor to introduce you to these methods. > They are not without hazard if they are improperly done and it is easy to do > them improperly. > > In the IV, the basic technique is the same except on the takeoff use FULL > flaps. In the IV it is actually much easier to do a softfield takeoff since > there is more initial elevator authority and the airplane is, in general, a > bit more stable than the 320/360. I have NOT done any soft field work in a > Legacy so I can't speak on that. > > Good luck with this. Let me know if you've got questions. > > > Bill Harrelson > N5ZQ 320 1,300 hrs > N6ZQ IV under construction > > > > > > > Bill and Sue---I would love to know the short field procedures you use. > > Paul Hershorin > > (561) 641-7510 > > > >> We've been operating our 320 out of grass for 1300 hours, never had a > >> problem. We intend to operate our IV out of grass also. You do need to > >> utilize soft field techniques. Contact us if you'd like to discuss our > >> procedures. > > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/lml/ >