X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 1 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:27:15 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp108.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([68.142.229.97] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.3) with SMTP id 1677661 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:05:49 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.229.97; envelope-from=lorn@dynacomm.ws Received: (qmail 62247 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2006 14:04:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.118?) (lorn@ameritech.net@12.174.134.13 with plain) by smtp108.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2006 14:04:52 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: V9Fh24wVM1nSPD3cLevZkJJ0hvdzoPSDVizr.ufv5FL9rgJaQfT2HCRJlNtdIMU9wj6bILqQUhYEjKy_hDMANictl_q1gTrROn382jvISmOFmkXWjmTedESss8_7DMH8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed X-Original-Message-Id: <1C09ED5F-9E45-4A1F-92A8-CD68FECEDB80@dynacomm.ws> X-Original-Cc: colyncase@earthlink.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lorn H Olsen Subject: Re: Lancair De-Ice is OK X-Original-Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:04:50 -0500 X-Original-To: Lancair List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Colyn, Where do you live? I live in the Detroit area and fly all winter long. My last 3 flights to North Carolina had ice above me and south. I had to fly north 30 miles, climb above it and then head on south. I am stopped once or twice a year but not much more. I don't touch ice with my plane. Even a very slight "frost" on the leading edge slows the plane about 30 knots. My last plane was a C-340 with known icing. I had it for 2 years flew winter and summer and maybe once saw ice. I wish that I had deice equipment but if I put any more equipment on the plane, I don't think that it could get off the ground. I just landed in NC and took off at 1,900 lbs. Very heavy for a LNC2. Compromises, compromises. Lorn > From: "colyncase on earthlink" > Date: December 15, 2006 12:18:40 AM EST > > What are the rules regarding known icing and experimentals. > > I don't know the real answer to that but I THINK the answer is > you'll never get an experimental approved for known icing. > > Part of (the main part) of known icing certification as it was > explained > to me is that the airplane has to continue flying xx (20?) minutes > after > a complete de-ice system failure at yy droplet size at zz > accumulation rate. > > I'd guess that's a flunk for any skinny wing plastic airplane. > > On the other hand, where I live, you are not going anywhere in the > winter without > going through a few thousand feet of cloud that is in the ice > making temp range. > > Leaving out the freezing rain days, clear ice days, and ice to the > ground days, > de-ice capability would make an operational difference. -- Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, DynaComm, Corp. 248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.ws LNC2, O-320-D1F, 1,200 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE Michigan