X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 20:11:20 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from ispmxfep01-srv.windstream.net ([166.102.165.157] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.2) with ESMTP id 1583343 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 19:00:42 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=166.102.165.157; envelope-from=airmale@windstream.net Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [71.31.137.161]) by ispmxfep01-srv.windstream.net with ESMTP id <20061120000012.WCTF25498.ispmxfep01-srv.windstream.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 18:00:12 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <4560F007.90804@windstream.net> X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 19:00:07 -0500 From: J H Webb User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Down in Ga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit VTAILJEFF@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/13/2006 3:15:09 PM Central Standard Time, > Sky2high@aol.com writes: > > Regardless of how the engine stopped, the way the emergency was > handled seems to be important. > Scott, > > You are a genius. It seems that powered pilots when faced with an > engine out situation tend to fly until: > > a) they hit something or > b) they run out of airspeed and stall the airplane. > > Most aircraft accidents I investigate and pilots I see in flight > training or in FAA checkrides are not capable of determining how far > they can glide and whether or not they can make it to their chosen > landing site. Most pilots do not know how to spiral over their landing > site, arrive at a suitable high key and low key postion and land > within 200 feet of their chosen point. This is important stuff-- but > many pilots do not know how to do it and many do not practice it > regularly. It is not hard stuff. If a 14 year old soloing in a glider > can do it why can't an adult pilot do it in a Lancair? This guy wasn't > even close. Flying is like golf...if you don't practice regularly, how > can you expect to shoot par? > > Jeff Edwards > LIVP N619SJ Jeff, Absolutely correct. or put another way practice makes perfect!! I have test flown both the Walters and PT 6 engines and they have a common problem. Plus an abrupt large power change in a LIVPT can cause directional distress (large yaw angles) at both low and high speeds without quick rudder input you could loose control. This is because of insufficient vertical surface aft of the center of gravity/center of pressure. If you have not experienced it, it can be very frightening. I have done quite a bit of turbine flight test in a former life and one of the issues was the abrupt change in drag. Upfront in a single engine airplane this can be very hard to control. Jack Webb L360, LIV BSAE major interest low speed (below Mach 1.0) aerodynamics and stalls Lots of Engineering flight test and instruction experience in high performance a/c