X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 00:19:10 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp102.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([68.142.229.103] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.6) with SMTP id 1466719 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:14:16 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.229.103; envelope-from=earleschroeder@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 56732 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2006 01:13:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=G/u02nf71Tyc4HFApXIxN5O19Z23+jS4UZLDRm0Z1Z867NixfoySAERHKF9ebTBrEPYnTfn5YMM1B0KXSXtJEA2XU+9YkAKrDBqjxCnt7Wn7bWYo1O6m/U8fzvHOSFUCCOxeJe9aYgEl6fo5dbNmJRi77lcE/Qi61VoTQ9dPNcI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (earleschroeder@75.16.239.180 with plain) by smtp102.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Oct 2006 01:13:58 -0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <45318B52.5000609@yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:13:54 -0500 From: Earl Schroeder User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Lancair List Subject: Oshkosh approach? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've read the comments and find them interesting. I hesitate to comment but since I've flown in many times, I do have some experience. The following is a copy of my comments to ATC Oshkosh. If it can be improved, send your improvements. ----------------------- I've flown the approach in a c-150, Mustang II, and a Lancair LNC2 [2 place]since the late 70s. My good experiences have been when the faster airplanes were headed for 18-36 and the others to 9-27. Serious problems when war birds or group type arrivals have closed access to 18-36. [I've been refused 18-36 the last two years in the Lancair...not good] My solution: dual lanes down the tracks with the lower altitude on the left side containing the slower airplanes. The right lane at the higher altitude and directed to left or right 18-36 depending on speed or other requirements. Stop closing 18-36 for anything except an emergency. If the warbirds require special handling or the group types, create a window in the notam [say an hour in the afternoon (like a reservation system)]. If they miss the window, tough, and have them join in the standard arrival. Some suggest letting the 'fast' homebuilts use the warbird approach. Letting them in the window might work but it isn't a total solution as it does not address those of us that can fly safely at 90 knots but not at 70 which is the common speed I've observed in these many years. ---------------------------