Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #38083
From: Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org>
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Subject: RE: [LML] Re: LNC2 Gear Leak on High (Up) Side
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:36:06 -0400
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Sounds like you have a high to low cylinder leak. Disconnect each low side and plumb to a coke bottle or other suitable container. Retract the gear. After the gear is up mark the fluid level in each bottle. Over time the bad cylinder will leak fluid from the down side into it's respective container.
 
 

Bruce
www.glasair.org
 

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From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Steve Rosenzweig
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 9:56 AM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Re: LNC2 Gear Leak on High (Up) Side

I've had the same problem on my LNC360 with the pump cycling on for an instant, about every 20-30 seconds.  I have the same type of pump shown in Clark's attachment (series 108 OilDyne pump).  I tore it down and replaced all the internal O rings, reinstalled it and it continued to do the same thing.  I then disconnected the extend side of each gear actuator and plugged it and then turned power on in an attempt to isolate a leaking cylinder.  But that didn't help either.  Now I didn't check the door actuators which are also T'd off the same lines.  I'd say the actuators and pump are about 5 years old.  Anyone have any other suggestions for eliminating this hydraulic cycling??''
 
Thanks
 
Steve Rosenzweig
Lancaster, CA
LNC360
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 3:03 PM
Subject: [LML] LNC2 Gear Leak on High (Up) Side

The hydraulic pump in my 360 started to "burp" (ie, run for an instant) in flight more than the usual once every 20-30 minutes or so.  I could see the High side (UP) pressure going down, forcing the pump to run for an instant to repressurize the system.  After a short period where the problem went away, it then returned, with the pump cycling much too often (about every couple of minutes).  There was no evidence of an External leak and the Low side held pressure fairly well.
 
As my gear retract cylinders were about 10year old Matcos, that I have rebuilt at least once, I decided to install new cylinders now made by Wohlsenholm, who reportedly makes high quality components.  I also replaced the original gear door cylinders with new ones (I had already installed the heavy duty dump valve).
 
Now, the system would hold Low pressure for days, something it would never do before.  But, the Hi side problem was unchanged.  I disassembled the hydraulic pump and found a torn O-Ring on the Hi Side check valve (#8) on the attached drawing.  After replacing all the hydraulic pump seals, the pump did not burp at all on a 20 minute test flight.
 
One more LNC2 gear data point.
 
Regards,
Clark Baker
LNC2 360, 710hrs TT
 


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