X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:50:29 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.36] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.4) with ESMTP id 1420299 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 25 Sep 2006 21:48:18 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.157.36; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id q.40e.682d3a80 (29672) for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2006 21:47:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <40e.682d3a80.3249e0b5@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 21:47:33 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: WLS Primer Spraying? X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1159235253" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5330 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1159235253 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Interesting....... WLS is a two part epoxy primer that provides good fill qualities. Today there are much better alternatives (two part, water based) that should be investigated for they only require that you roll it on - as many coats as needed to fill - and then just sand it once to a final finish before painting (or flying). I used three coats of WLS back in '94-'95 and was pleased. Each coat required one week of prep (paper on the floor, plastic covering everything else, surface cleaning), 20 minutes to spray and two weeks of wet sanding before the next coat. I mask sprayed Krylon N-numbers on the side and after certification flew the plane in primer for a year before it was painted. One problem that the primer surface had was that it was extremely conducive to the formation of static - so much so that running my hand over the cowl would cause the hair to stand up on my arm (Loran would never work once airborne, forcing me to switch to GPS before its time). After removal of the Krylon and a final light sanding, the plane was painted (PPG automotive base/clear) - lo and behold, the Krylon number area was swollen and, in the right light, one could make out the old numbers. It took about 6 months for the swelling to disappear. Today, in fluorescent light, I can see the weave in the e-glass cloth underlying the paint and primer (disappears in sunlight). If I was prepping today, I would never use WLS. Times have changed. Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96 Aurora, IL (KARR) A man has got to know his limitations. In a message dated 9/25/2006 6:48:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, wendell1@pacbell.net writes: I have used WLS primer and have had great success with it. It sprays good , sands good, and has good hold out qualities. The worst thing is that it takes overnight to dry. In case you are not familiar with paint, hold out means that it will nat allow other paints to penetrate through it and swell sand scratches, pits, cloth weave or whatever. Its good stuff. Wendell Solesbee ----- Original Message ----- From: _Kevin Kossi_ (mailto:kevin@airforcemechanical.com) To: _Lancair Mailing List_ (mailto:lml@lancaironline.net) Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 8:47 AM Subject: [LML] Re: WLS Primer Spraying? LML Members, Does anyone have any experience in spraying WLS Coatings epoxy primer? The kit consists of 1 gallon of (The Aerocraftparts website says Primer, but I think it is the Resin?) with 1 quart of Catalyst and 1 gallon of Reducer. I gather you use the Reducer to thin and clean? Thanks Kevin Kossi Legacy 65% New York -------------------------------1159235253 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Interesting.......

WLS is a two part epoxy primer that provides good fill qualities. = =20 Today there are much better alternatives (two part, water based) that=20 should be investigated for they only require that you roll it on - as many c= oats=20 as needed to fill - and then just sand it once to a final finish before pain= ting=20 (or flying).

I used three coats of WLS back in '94-'95 and was pleased. Each c= oat=20 required one week of prep (paper on the floor, plastic covering everything e= lse,=20 surface cleaning), 20 minutes to spray and two weeks of wet sanding before t= he=20 next coat.

I mask sprayed Krylon N-numbers on the side and after certification fle= w=20 the plane in primer for a year before it was painted.

One problem that the primer surface had was that it was extre= mely=20 conducive to the formation of static - so much so that running my hand over=20= the=20 cowl would cause the hair to stand up on my arm (Loran would never work once= =20 airborne, forcing me to switch to GPS before its time).

After removal of the Krylon and a final light sanding, the plane was=20 painted (PPG automotive base/clear) - lo and behold, the Krylon number area=20= was=20 swollen and, in the right light, one could make out the old numbers. I= t=20 took about 6 months for the swelling to disappear. Today, in fluoresce= nt=20 light, I can see the weave in the e-glass cloth underlying the paint and=20 primer (disappears in sunlight).

If I was prepping today, I would never use WLS. Times have=20 changed.

Scott Krueger=20 AKA Grayhawk
Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96
Aurora, IL (KARR)

A m= an=20 has got to know his limitations.

In a message dated 9/25/2006 6:48:05 P.M. Central Standard Time,=20 wendell1@pacbell.net writes:

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I have used WLS primer and have had great= success=20 with it. It sprays good , sands good, and has good hold out qualities= .=20 The worst thing is that it takes overnight to dry.

In case you are not familiar with paint,=20= hold out=20 means that it will nat allow other paints to penetrate through it and swel= l=20 sand scratches, pits, cloth weave or whatever.

Its good stuff.

Wendell Solesbee =

----- Original Message -----
Fr= om:=20 Kevin Kossi

To: Lancair Mailing List

Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006=20= 8:47=20 AM

Subject: [LML] Re: WLS Primer=20 Spraying?

LML Members,

Does anyone have any experience in spraying WLS Coatings epoxy= =20 primer?

The kit consists of 1= gallon=20 of (The Aerocraftparts website says Primer, but I think it is the Resin?= )=20 with 1 quart of Catalyst and 1 gallon of Reducer.

I gather you use the=20= Reducer=20 to thin and clean?

Thanks<= /DIV>

Kevin=20 Kossi

Legacy=20 65%

New=20 York

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