Mr D,
I’ve learned a bit by reading your
recent emails regarding the D and E models. Thanks for the posts and the
shared knowledge. However…
I’m also guessing you recognize the
value of your plane/project is related to the popular/public opinion of Lancair
in general. i.e. If people are (wrongly) lead to believe that Lancairs
are poorly designed, not supported, and ran by self-centered snake-oil folks,
then demand goes down along with the value of your project/investment (and along
with the value of all the rest of our planes/projects).
Occasionally, I’ve also been a bit frustrated
with some of the support and/or follow-up available from Redmond myself. However, from your
post, I can only assume you do not know Joe very well – otherwise you
would just contact him directly, rather than posting an emotionally charged public
email (I assume using all capitals in your email means “with emotion”).
I’ve found him very fair to deal with – recognizing there is only
so much he can do so satisfy each frustrated customer and keep the company healthy.
I’m sure you realize what happens to the value of our little planes if
Lancair falls on hard times (or ever ends up like Express). Joe and the
folks at Redmond are not the enemy – they are part of your team –
as are the rest of us with lots of time, energy, $ (and our lives) tied up in
these plastic boxes.
-10 yards for unsportsmanlike conduct ;-)
Rick Titsworth, Detroit
Cell: 313-506-5604
From: Lancair Mailing
List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf
Of Douglas Kay
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006
12:00 AM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Re: Walter
"D" vs "E" models
although it is unfortunate that you sometimes have to represent your
employees, but one of your sales staff certainly did tell me in person that the
D would not pressurize the plane. It was less than a year ago, and in fact that
conflicting remark as well as it seemed that he took additional time to
critisize the Diemech engine,, has made me delay the decision about the engine.
If you don't want to be thought of as disingenious, I suggest you have a
sales staff meeting and get everyone on the same page. When someone you employ
speaks, certainly on issues such as this, the guidance must be coming from
somewhere.
On the other hand, your statement about "high temperatures"
from the flow pack is WRONG. On this issue, I have some knowledge first hand.
Flowpacks are used by manufactures because they don't want to bleed too much
air from the turbine. You take just a small amount of bleed and a bunch of
colder outside air, run it all though an intercooler and you have air that is
not hot at all, and even better, the engine has plenty air left for power.
Your EXE engine on the other hand, is pulling plenty of air from the
turbine, (and yes,, this air is high temp) and my guess is that you
have to run it through an intercooler (so much for your statement about cooler air),,,
So, as you say, it is difficult and more expensive,,,, hmmmm....
I am quite certain now, that any of the EXE planes will be plenty
slower than the D planes, just because of this issue.
I have spoken to more than 4 EXE owners now, and I can tell you,, that
the owners report poor to very poor support from Walter. Most of their problems
seem to be installation issues and Walter does not support that..... According
to a professional builder in the mid west,,, quote "there is nobody to go
to for help". He was installing an EXE engine.
One other builder I spoke to, used a FACTORY LANCAIR test pilot for his
EXE powered plane, and YOUR pilot overtemped and oversped his engine. (I wonder
how much support Walter is going to give for that). The TSLM clearly showed
what the pilot did, and he is now afraid to fly the plane. How can he trust the
engine? Lancair doesn't want to replace the engine, Walter doesn't want to
replace it... Let me ask you this, since you were the one that brought up the
issue of support,,,, Would you want to fly in this plane after you knew it was
overtemped and oversped??? How do you think your customer feels????
D
Marvin Kaye
<marv@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Posted for "Joe Bartels" :
There are a lot of differences that would make one Lancair faster than
another. Sometimes it is the weight, sometimes it is the addition of de-ice
and sometimes it is weather conditions. True airspeed should be close with
either the "E" or "D" engines. I cannot speak to Mr.
Cooke's aircraft as I
have never seen it.
If someone at Lancair told you that you could not pressurize your aircraft
with a "D" engine, they would be incorrect. It is just a good deal
more
difficult and expensive as you would need a "flow-pack" to reduce the
exceedingly high temperatures that will come from the high pressure/low volume
air that the "D" engine produces from its bleed port.
Your comments about my being a liar are truly disturbing and unappreciated.
If you wish to buy a "D" engine from Diemach or anyone else, that is
your
decision. If you wish to buy a factory remanufactured engine supported by
Walter at a discounted OEM price, ("D" or "E") your option
is then limited to
purchasing it through us.
Joseph C. Bartels, CEO
Lancair International, Inc.
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