Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #36082
From: Maurits <mvr7@hotmail.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: turbines over temps & rpm
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 20:31:00 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Barney,
 
We have changed the software so it would not count the occasional spike caused by the tachgen as an event during the initial testing development of the TSLM and with the over 40 planes flying with the TSLM have not had any complaints.
We have downloads showing Lancairs with significant over temps , N2 in excess of 2080 rpm by as much as 300 plus rpm and over torque during test flights for a couple of seconds at a time and usually the over temp , over speed and over torque happens simultaneously. According to our customers these over temps are done by various pilots including Lancair test pilots. Diemech Turbines has this data recorded on file, in most cases Diemech Turbines found it necessary to open up engines to repair the damage.
 
It is also important to note that with regards to using the 84 inch prop especially over speeding the N2 on landing on a short strip at high elevation with a Lancair IV T that you have Beta Limiting activated in the configuration and wired up, as you can easily exceed 1900 RPM ( Walter Manual )  in Beta / Reverse during landing.
It has been demonstrated on a plane with a  99 inch prop as well.
 
Regards,
Maurits
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 4:43 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: turbines over temps & rpm

Bill
 
I have not heard of any test pilot over temping or over revving Walters.  I do know that the new TSLM that is installed on most Walters now records engine parameters.  The problem with these records is that there seems to be spikes in the system that it also records.  These are split second spikes that are errors but it records them anyways due to the accuracy of the system.  I did notice that on my turbine we had to put quite a few capacitors in the wiring to reduce these spikes that were occurring.  We noticed things like hydraulic pump actuation causing ITT spikes and various other power draws doing the same thing until we put these capacitor "filters" in the wiring to get rid of these power spikes and false readings.  I believe that this may have something to do with these rumors as we were talking about these issues with the TSLM at the Sebring annual recurrent training course.  These power spikes effected quite a few of my engine readings until they were rectified.  The Walter ITT readings are always bouncing around anyways and are never as steady as what you would see from a Pratt.
 
Barney Britton
IVPT C-GPOA
----- Original Message -----
From: reddog
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:06 PM
Subject: [LML] turbines over temps & rpm

Can anyone on the list enlighten me to which test pilot is over temping and over revving the Walters on the east coast –rumor . Also a test pilot gear up landing  in Florida several mounts back –would like details on these if known . This is something that seems to be  a rumor but would like a clarification  Bill Maddox

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