X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [66.174.79.231] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 5.0.9) with HTTP id 1116732 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 16 May 2006 23:19:12 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: IVP Crash To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.0.9 Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 23:19:12 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8984A39879F2F5418251CBEEC9C689B314E86E@lucky.dts.local> References: <8984A39879F2F5418251CBEEC9C689B314E86E@lucky.dts.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "Chuck Jensen" : I don't have a dog, or a Lancair, in this fight-happen to be a canard man myself, but this safe/unsafe argument clearly misses the point. As Mr. Sletten pointed out, an inanimate object is neither safe or unsafe. True. However, it is incontrovertible that between two inanimate objects intended to be used for flying, one is most certainly safer than the other, as no two objects can occupy the same relative position. Of course, even that relativity is based on pilot experience, practices and knowledge. If RA's point was that Lancairs are unsafe, I would disagree. However if, as I suspect, he was intending to say that 'Lancairs are relatively unsafe compared to many other planes', then any Lancair builder or pilot that disagrees does so at his personal peril. That's not to say that a Lancair can't be flown safely, but it takes a higher level of skill, awareness and vigilance than a flying a C172. If this is true, and I believe it is, then a Lancair is relatively (to a C172) unsafe. Yes, one can demand engineering data on stability, static and dynamic and all kinds of numbers, but for those not whistling in the dark, just look at the NTSB Accident List-that's evidence enough. And, it should be understood that this log of accidents was built with the inclusion of many pilots that were not 25 hour per year fliers with 125 hours TT. On that list are CFIIs, Instructors, ATPs, Commercial pilots ad nauseum. Do I dislike or am I attempting to denigrate the Lancair....not at all. I love the look, I love the performance and I would love to have the skill to fly one safely. Instead, I'll stick with a canard pusher that is a better match to my piloting skills and when I get low and slow in the pattern. In short, to not acknowledge that the Lancair requires a higher level of skill to fly safely is simply denial. On the other hand, anyone that wants to diplomatically remind Lancair fliers to 'be careful out there' is doing a public service, not a disservice to the plane. Thanks, Chuck Jensen