X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [72.255.12.10] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 5.0.9) with HTTP id 1111025 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 12 May 2006 17:10:22 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: IVP Crash To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.0.9 Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 17:10:22 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <32773418.1147443533676.JavaMail.root@centrmwml04.mgt.cox.net> References: <32773418.1147443533676.JavaMail.root@centrmwml04.mgt.cox.net> X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for : Yes, a real shame, my condolences to the families and friends of those involved. The newspaper article quotes someone stating the airplane was attempting to return to the airport. Without attempting to be accident investigator, judge and jury, here is an interesting experiment. Keeping an open mind about this particular accident., it is still an interesting experiment. A a safe altitude, set up slow flight and set up an climb at initial climb speed / takeoff configuration. Reduce power and *maintaining best glide speed* make a 240 degree turn. (a 180 would only get you parallel to the runway, not back on it) Note the amount of altitude loss. My bet is that it will suprise you. Add a bit extra to allow for reaction time when you are not planning for this to happen. Be prepared to land straight ahead or with only minor deviations) if you loose an engine below this altitude when taking off. Coordinated turns at best rate! dont spin while trying to do this experiment! Nathan Kanagy