X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 00:28:36 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from relay-2.mail.nethere.net ([66.63.128.162] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.7f) with ESMTP id 953367 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:09:38 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.63.128.162; envelope-from=bnn@nethere.com Received: from scan-1.mail.nethere.net (scan-1.mail [66.63.128.132]) by relay-2.mail.nethere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6711E3C681 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:08:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta-2.mail.nethere.net by scan-1.mail.nethere.net with LMTP id 02314-01-32; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:08:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from Dell-P4-2GHz.nethere.com (02-090.015.popsite.net [66.248.18.90]) by mta-2.mail.nethere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE9D11AC78 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:08:48 -0800 (PST) X-Original-Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20060125090802.01da98d8@pop3.nethere.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 X-Original-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:08:33 -0800 X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Re: Runway checks, passes, flybys Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 03:00 AM 1/25/2006, you wrote: >Lets not confuse what George Shattuck does as a flyby. He is doing an >overhead approach. Overhead approaches are a standard approach as are >missed approaches. Just where in the FAR/AIM is the "Overhead approach" defined? And where and in what civil rating is it taught? I know it did not appear in the PTS for the private rating in 2000. I ask in all seriousness because I'd like to know how it's done so I'll know what to expect the next time I hear the call. Unfortunately there appears to be quite a range of techniques offered amongst the pilots of the Lancair list, with entry anywhere from 100' AGL to pattern altitude, and at almost any speed. Where, for safety's sake, does the FAA define this "standard approach"? >When I do an overhead approach, I descend to 1,000 ft AGL, on the >turn, I climb to 1,500 ft AGL. 1,500 ft is my standard pattern entry. >This also helps me avoid, if I did not see it, any slow moving >traffic in the pattern at 1,000 ft. Does this mean you descend into the pattern on downwind? Guy Buchanan K-IV 1200 / 582 / 99.9% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.