X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 02:15:30 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.67] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.7f) with ESMTP id 940216 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:09:36 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.67; envelope-from=aadamson@highrf.com Received: from ibm60aec.bellsouth.net ([68.217.114.94]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060121150833.HPJM25663.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm60aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:08:33 -0500 Received: from Typhoon ([68.217.114.94]) by ibm60aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060121150832.GENB12303.ibm60aec.bellsouth.net@Typhoon> for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:08:32 -0500 From: "Alan K. Adamson" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: Ram air ideas X-Original-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:08:33 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <002901c61e9c$8bd7e070$0501a8c0@highrf.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcYenItssn9JbSWrTJ2sMRdK5tlm4Q== I wasn't really looking for this, but I read and interesting thread recently about a presentation that Cris Ferguson (of Evansville, AR) made. He either built or was instrumental in building one of the fastest, if not the fastest qualifying biplane at this years race at reno. One interesting thing that they did as this was a NA 4 cylinder engine. They created a specifically designed chin scoop to create ram air. I've included the quote that I read about it below.. "Another interesting thing I got to see was the air intake which he said was an NACA design, not the classic half hour glass profile but a small chin scoop picking up the high pressure air just below the 15" spinner similar to that seen on a P-51D. He said they were able to pick up 2 inches of manifold pressure with this configuration." I did some further web research and found a few pictures, but not much more information. The first link is some basic information and a few pictures, you'll see, but not very well the chin scoop... It just a very thin slit below the spinner http://www.aafo.com/racing/2005/lo_racer/ This is a picture of Don Barnes cowling being fit, which caused a light to go off.... Looks like you could add the scoop pretty easy to the Legacy, but you have the problem of how to get the ram air to the top of the engine, when the lycomings are all bottom feed :(.... Maybe two smaller "eyebrow" scoops could be created on the top? Clearance with the prop extension, etc may be the challenge here? http://www.lancairlegacy.com/06_04_images/0604_cowl_15.jpg This is Jeff Lo's, the owner the biplane, web site. There is a link at the end of the first paragraph with much better pictures, altho, none really show the "design" of the scoop very well http://flyin-lo.com/Racer/ The design is discussed as a "NACA" design, so doing a little more research, I found the nose bowl NACA design documentation. Most of this is on cowling design, but there is a section on "chin" scoops... Warning, it's highly technical. http://naca.larc.nasa.gov/reports/1948/naca-report-920/ Lastly, this all may be for not. While an additional 2" of manifold pressure would be great, I'm not sure what the simply design of the Lancair ram air system provides, perhaps it's similar with less cosmetic work required. I've heard that to get the max from the lancair system, you need to stop the ram air from going back out the filter. Also, once you start playing with this stuff, on the continental engine, if the injectors see more air pressure than ambient, they will leak. You really need to augment their design with a "turbo" style injector housing, which takes the ram air pressure and uses it so the injectors don't leak. Cold fuel on hot cylinders *is not* a good thing :) So I didn't loose all this info, I figured, I'd post it, so at least I could find it next time, in the archives :) Alan