X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [69.171.52.140] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 5.0.7f) with HTTP id 940880 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 02:14:14 -0500 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] Runway checks, passes, flybys To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.0.7f Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 02:14:14 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <003c01c61ea2$2e97bfb0$261fa30c@George> References: <003c01c61ea2$2e97bfb0$261fa30c@George> X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "George Shattuck" : The comments on low passes/flybys are interesting and probably useful in terms of getting the subject on the table for folks to think about and learn from. But it should be noted that the subject of my post was engine management, and if that could have been a factor in the accident and loss of the 320 in California, and should we think about, and consider it in our own operations. The only comment about that subject came from Chat Daniel and I commend him for it. There was one other about a possible throttle linkage failure, which could have been the case. We will all probably check the lock nuts/rod end bearings on our machines now. That's good. But I admit to throwing some bait out there and the interest is more on those reckless, shiny assed, hot dogging, dangerous pilots who would be so audacious as to fly fast than on mundane things like engine management. Story. Our local CFI was on the downwind with a student when I returned one day. I monitored, called him in sight, no other traffic, announced my intentions, blew up the runway for plenty of interval on the CFI who was just turning off the abeam as I came by. Check for traffic, pull up in a climbing turn to the downwind to decel and get below gear speed, landed well after he was clear of the runway. The CFI roared up to my hangar and blessed me out, saying he should file a near miss on me, too fast, dangerous and all that. I was very nice to him because shortly thereafter I took my BFR with him in my right seat. We did our thing and on return to our airport, I explained to him about gear extend speed (120 kts.), pointed out my airspeed (185 kts) with 2200 RPM and about 22 in. MAP. So, I made the appropriate calls, checked for traffic, passed down the runway at about 190 kts. and 100 or so feet, checked the wind sock, pulled up and around to the downwind, speed at 110 abeam, gear down, and proceeded to squeak it on. He only said that he didn't know of a regulation against the procedure and went home. George Shattuck N320GS