X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [69.171.52.140] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 5.0.7f) with HTTP id 940849 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 22 Jan 2006 02:12:55 -0500 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: Winglets versus Wingtips To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.0.7f Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 02:12:55 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5ADF32D6-625A-4018-BE89-489A7376D0B6@adelphia.net> References: <5ADF32D6-625A-4018-BE89-489A7376D0B6@adelphia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for Gary Casey : As I understand it, the winglet thing started when airliner designers felt the need to increase wingspan to accommodate higher gross weights, but there was a hard limit on span imposed by ramp parking considerations. They look really cool and the rest is history. If the wing tip is angled upward and the angle of incidence very carefully set with a slight toe-out the normal inflow at the tip could be partly stopped, just like an extended tip would do, and the resulting "lift" would have a slight forward component inducing a thrust that would at least partially compensate for the additional parasitic drag. Of course, you could do the same with a strait wingtip or even a downward winglet. As I understand it the benefit is only close to stall, where airliners typically cruise. Also, swept wings can usually be built without washout and the winglets give a little effective washout at the tip. I suspect if Charlie had kept going up or had reduced power so that the indicated speed would have been close to best glide or even below, the winglets might have been able to show a gain. Gary Casey