X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 01:03:14 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from ylpvm12.prodigy.net ([207.115.57.43] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.6) with ESMTP id 932522 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 01:58:23 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.115.57.43; envelope-from=c177av8r@pacbell.net Received: from ylpvm01.prodigy.net (ylpvm01-int.prodigy.net [207.115.5.207]) by ylpvm12.prodigy.net (8.12.10 outbound/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k0J6uTeY003895 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 01:56:29 -0500 X-ORBL: [67.116.68.107] Received: from pacbell.net (ppp-67-116-68-107.dialup.pltn13.pacbell.net [67.116.68.107]) by ylpvm01.prodigy.net (8.13.4 dk-milter linux/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0J6uUm8027015 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2006 01:56:30 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <43CF381C.77B73899@pacbell.net> X-Original-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:56:28 -0800 From: Duane Allen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] Re: major changes? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I forwarded your previous message to a friend of mine who has a Beech Sierra. The below copy is her response. Also, I have many friends with 177RGs all of which have a Lycoming IO360 in them and this is the first I have heard of major oil consumption/use. I had my o360, and o540 overhauled, both of which I broke in at 75% or more power and the temps dropped within the first hour and am getting 8-14 hrs. per quart oil usage. duane Marvin Kaye wrote: > > Posted for "Matt Hapgood" : > > John, > > The shop has told me the same thing - this engine (IO-360) is notorious for > break-in problems. > > That's why I am going to remove it from the plane and let them break it in > on their test stand. > > Matt > > > -- > > Lindy Whiteway wrote: > > > > Luckily, we have never had any oil consumption > > problems in my Sierra, either before or after we put > > on the new cylinders a few months ago. With about 25 > > hours on the new cylinders, we burn about a quart > > every six hours or so, running Aeroshell 80 straight > > mineral oil, and the oil stays pretty clean. We'll be > > switching to AD oil at the 50 hour mark, per the > > Lycoming overhaul manual. > > > > I've done a lot of reading about top and major > > overhaul procedures. Light Plane Maintenance has > > published several books on the subject as well as many > > articles. Kas Thomas was the principal author and > > formerly published a newsletter called TBO Advisor. > > As I recall, the critical part is the run-in and > > break-in of the new or overhauled parts. Running the > > engine pretty hard (75% power) at varying RPM, then > > changing power settings, some 100% power runs such as > > on takeoff and climb, etc. Babying the engine during > > this time seems to cause most of the problems with > > ring seating (or not, as in John's case). He's > > probably correct about the problem being blow-by, not > > the ignition. The only solution that I'm aware of is > > to pull the cylinders, inspect, re-hone (critical > > step), and install new rings, then break in again. > > How do the plugs look? Is timing set properly? Oil, > > EGT, and CHTs normal? > >