X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 20:19:56 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.3) with ESMTP id 868905 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 08 Dec 2005 18:38:56 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.137.5; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id q.f6.5e55287d (57365) for ; Thu, 8 Dec 2005 18:38:01 -0500 (EST) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 18:38:01 EST Subject: LNC2 Battery, LSE Backup Battery poser X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1134085081" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5300 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1134085081 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <<<<<<<<<<<< Should a voltage regulator especially for a stand-by backup battery be constructed that senses battery condition that charges when necessary and provides 13.8 VDC float voltage during stand-by times if no charge is needed? The BB diode drops the charging voltage .2 currently (to 13.9 - 14.1 VDC), this is good because it is almost the float voltage but in the summer the voltage will be much higher than the float voltage. Am I damaging the stand-by backup battery? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finally, I was able to answer my own questions. No special regulator or system to maintain a float voltage need be constructed or utilized. There are at least three things that shorten the life of SLA batteries - multiple deep discharges, long term overcharging, multiple long periods of disuse (measured in several months). By shortened life I mean lack of ability to deliver rated Amp Hours service including, for starting batteries, Cold Crank Amps and otherwise the delivery of voltage/current over usage time. There is one thing that extends the life of SLA batteries and that is maintaining a continuous constant float voltage at a small current level. Thus a standby battery maintenance scheme was considered. Normal life (several years) can be achieved by normal usage. Discharging to a single digit percent of its rating, recharging at the proper voltage level and limiting the current as the battery becomes charged accomplish this end. In an airplane, such management of the main battery is accomplished by the voltage regulator as long as it is matched to the battery. So, if I did construct a float voltage device for my standby battery, the fact that it is cycled at each Master Switch cycle and then operates only for the duration of each flight means that it would not necessarily extend its life. The slight over voltage charge rate during each flight will probably not shorten the life to any less than the main battery. Conclusion: Replace the standby battery on the same schedule that the main battery is replaced. I.E. Every two to three years or when the preflight voltage tests indicate a drop of more than .2 volts from the previous trend (See Battery Tender FAQs re: How to tell if a battery is bad). BTW, I considered modifying a Battery Tender Jr (120 VAC in) to provide the float voltage. It was interesting to note that most of the weight and space inside the unit was taken up by a transformer that dropped the 120 VAC to 13.7 VAC. Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96 Aurora, IL (KARR) Merry Christmas to all! -------------------------------1134085081 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Should a voltage regulator especially for a stand-by backup battery be=20 constructed that senses battery condition that charges when necessary a= nd=20 provides 13.8 VDC float voltage during stand-by times if no charge= is=20 needed?
 
The BB diode drops the charging voltage .2 currently (to 13.9 - 14.1 VD= C),=20 this is good because it is almost the float voltage but in the summer the=20 voltage will be much higher than the float voltage.  Am I damaging= the=20 stand-by backup battery?
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Finally, I was able to answer my own questions.
 
No special regulator or system to maintain a float voltage need be=20 constructed or utilized. 
 
There are at least three things that shorten the life of SLA=20 batteries - multiple deep discharges, long term overcharging, multiple long=20 periods of disuse (measured in several months).  By shortened life I me= an=20 lack of ability to deliver rated Amp Hours service including, for starting=20 batteries, Cold Crank Amps and otherwise the delivery of voltage/current ove= r=20 usage time.   
 
There is one thing that extends the life of SLA batteries and that is=20 maintaining a continuous constant float voltage at a small current=20 level. Thus a standby battery maintenance scheme was=20 considered. 
 
Normal life (several years) can be achieved by normal usage. =20 Discharging to a single digit percent of its rating, recharging at the prope= r=20 voltage level and limiting the current as the battery becomes charged accomp= lish=20 this end.  In an airplane, such management of the main battery is=20 accomplished by the voltage regulator as long as it is matched to the=20 battery. 
 
So, if I did construct a float voltage device for my standby battery, t= he=20 fact that it is cycled at each Master Switch cycle and then operates only fo= r=20 the duration of each flight means that it would not necessarily=20 extend its life.  The slight over voltage charge rate during each=20 flight will probably not shorten the life to any less than the mai= n=20 battery. 
 
Conclusion:  Replace the standby battery on the same=20 schedule that the main battery is replaced.  I.E. Every two t= o=20 three years or when the preflight voltage tests indicate a drop of more than= .2=20 volts from the previous trend (See Battery Tender FAQs re: How to tell if a=20 battery is bad).
 
BTW, I considered modifying a Battery Tender Jr (120 VAC in) to=20 provide the float voltage.  It was interesting to note that most of the= =20 weight and space inside the unit was taken up by a transformer that dropped=20= the=20 120 VAC to 13.7 VAC.=20
 
Scott Krueger=20 AKA Grayhawk
Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96
Aurora, IL (KARR)

Mer= ry=20 Christmas to all!



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