X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 18:17:05 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web34914.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.68.193] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.3) with SMTP id 860904 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:27:50 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.191.68.193; envelope-from=n103md@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 33325 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Dec 2005 21:27:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QamWONjv5BYHcO5CNtYQOUoLX3rHdDFit8DkkUmuC077v5I1/JM1/Ni8SZCmPVVfKBi92495Y1Rs1AGlsA71sY/K1B3Rqyz9Pd4TeitjGdFksfFz2oma1rgo339F2pxuzg6/iGYk0zjx8PCtGVjxqWakUl0dMefawU0aXN+QW6A= ; X-Original-Message-ID: <20051202212701.33323.qmail@web34914.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.146.139.19] by web34914.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 13:27:01 PST X-Original-Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 13:27:01 -0800 (PST) From: bob mackey Subject: LED Position Lights X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit As many have mentioned, there is some non-linearity in the human eye's response that favors pulsed bright lights over continuous dim lights. But that effect is rather small. The much greater effect is the power efficiency of the circuit when used in pulse mode. There are two effects here. The first is that a smaller ballast resistor is used along with a short duty cycle. More power goes to the LED and less to the resistor. A second effect should also be considered. The light output of a RED LED increases faster than linearly with current. Some portion of the current always goes to non-emissive leakage. That is, the first milliamp is wasted. The second milliamp makes light. The third milliamp makes light. So 3mA is twice as bright as 2mA, not 3/2 as bright With blue, green, (and white) LEDs, there is less leakage due to different materials and higher bandgap voltage. So there is less motivation to pulse the current. If you look at common handheld consumer electronics you'll usually see the red LEDs flicker, and the blue ones don't. There are very good reasons to work that way when you have only a small battery. For aircraft uses, it really makes very little difference whether pulse width modulation or a large ballast resistor is used. Either way will be much more efficient than an incandescent lamp with a color filter. There was also the suggestion to use LEDs in series. That's a good idea, but don't take it too far. If there is no ballast resistor, the current will vary greatly with small variations in system voltage. Let's assume that we want the nav lights to stay lit when the alternator is off. The system voltage might be 12V with the engine off and 14.6V with the engine running. I = (Vsys - Vled) / R I usually use: 4 red LEDs (Vled = 4 * 1.8V = 7.2V), 3 green LEDs (Vled = 3 * 2.2V = 6.6V), or 2 white LEDs (Vled = 2 * 3.8V = 7.6V). In the red case, that leaves I = (Vsys - 7.2V) / R If we want 30mA per strand at the higher voltage (14.6V), then choose R = (14.6V - 7.2V) / 0.030A = 247 Ohm [might actually choose 300 or 330 ohm because it is readily available] When the voltage drops to 12V, the current will be: I = (12V - 7.2V) / 247 ohm = 19.5 mA So it will be about 2/3 as bright with the alternator offline. If we isntead used 8 red LEDs (8 * 1.8V = 14.4V) and a small ballast resistor to limit it to 30mA at 14.6V R = (14.6V - 14.4V) / 0.030A = 0.67 ohm [about equal to the wires and contacts] Then, when the voltage dropped to below 14.4V, the lights would go completely off. If the voltage surged to 15V, the current would increase to almost an Amp, burning out the LEDs. So.... stack a few LEDs, but don't get rid of the ballast resistors! That still applies if you use PWM, unless the PWM circuit is peak current limiting. __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com