X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [69.171.52.140] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 5.0.1) with HTTP id 836145 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 18 Nov 2005 22:57:22 -0500 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: When things do not feel right..... To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.0.1 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 22:57:22 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <437DA3D2.5060307@starband.net> References: <437DA3D2.5060307@starband.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "Hamid A. Wasti" : The following is a post from the Mooney list.  It is posted here without permission for general knowledge.  While I do not agree with the conclusion that oil analysis is useless, I do agree that if something looks out of place, look into it proactively and not pull a Shannon.  The engine in question is a Lycoming O-360. Hamid #################### The problem- A slightly rough left mag on the last flight and very fine particles of aluminum (very small almost like dust also visible in sunlight floating around in the oil) in every fold of the filter on the oil change due after that last flight.. Not enough to qualify to tear down according to Lycoming's service letters. Oil analysis AND microscope analysis said nothing was wrong and aluminum content of oil was in "normal" parameters. The reason- Tore it down as it was more metal than I wanted to fly with (especially at night over mountains here in the west) and when I removed the rear case the left magneto drive gear and attaching parts fell off in my hand. Seems the top bolt of the idler shaft hold down had either been stripped or never tightened on previous assembly (or loosened up in the in the 1500 hrs of engine time since overhaul) and it had wallowed out its hole along with the idler shaft doing the same in its hole. The bottom bolt was still in its threaded hole but it too had no threads on the bolt. The top bolt hole was wallowed out to twice its diameter with no internal threads left. I got lucky and I caution anyone not to place too much faith in oil analysis. If it seems like something is wrong it just might be. 64 M20 D/C