X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 23:56:30 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.198.35] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 939397 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 10 May 2005 22:19:10 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.198.35; envelope-from=bjburr@mwheli.com Received: from vaio (c-67-186-218-101.hsd1.ut.comcast.net[67.186.218.101]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005051102182401300hdbeje>; Wed, 11 May 2005 02:18:24 +0000 From: "Bryan J. Burr" X-Original-To: , Subject: Training and other stuff X-Original-Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 20:11:13 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <023e01c555ce$bfe902f0$0400a8c0@VAIO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_023F_01C5559C.754E92F0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_023F_01C5559C.754E92F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There has been much said recently following the NTSB report on Shannon's accident. I even posted my feelings. I continue to think about the situation of our Lancair airplanes (or other high performance, amature built, airplanes). For the past two years I don't believe a week goes by that someone doesn't talk about flight training, emergency situation training, transition training, engine operating procedures, propeller feathering, etc. It goes on and on and every post is valuable and every opinion has something constructive to offer. I try to learn something from these messages and appreciate all of your input. One of the things that I learned about Shannon's accident was that his annual/condition inspection was due in June. I am not going to say whether it was completed or not. But I do want to present a concern that I have. As stated above I think the bases are covered on flight training. It is up to us as pilots to get the best training possible to safely operate our airplanes. I have not heard or read much about organized maintenance training, or training for the annual/condition inspections, or training on how to do a good preflight inspection, and what to do about correcting the defects found during these inspections. As builder's we have the opportunity to receive a repairman's license from the FAA that allows us to perform all of the inspections and maintenance on our airplanes. We can perform and sign off the annual/condition inspection and do all of the other maintenance that is required. Do we, you and I, have the training that is necessary to perform these functions? The FAA feels that as the builder you have the best knowledge about your airplane. This is why they are willing to give the repairman's license. But I venture to say that, generally speaking, we lack many of the skills and knowledge necessary to correctly identify and correct problems and implement preventative maintenance on these aircraft? I personally feel I know how my Lancair ES was put together but I really do not have the knowledge to do a proper annual/condition inspection of the engine, propeller, or landing gear. So, I have a licenced A&P mechanic do these items for me. I believe there is a need for maintenance training for builder's. Just like the professional flight training and engine operating training. Perhaps a forum at Oshkosh, or Sun N Fun, or the other fly-ins is in order. How about more than just breakfast or a $100 hamburger at the small get together. Couldn't we have a scheduled training session on a particular mainenance procedure in conjunction with our fly-in's? Some items that I believe are important to be taught are: Aircraft Maintenance Log books, How to construct one that is complete, fill them out and how to sign them. The paper trail. The many sheets of paper that come with radios, repaired instruments, new parts, old parts, yellow tags, red tags, etc. Component time recording including service life, overhaul intervals, calendar life, etc. What about Airworthiness Directives, service bulletins, other maintenance communications? General aircraft maintenance practices. Including safety wire, nut torque, bearing wear, corrosion, general Part 43.13 practices. How do you change a tire, balance a tire, inflate a tire? How do you service a strut, bleed a brake? What is the allowed brake pad wear? How do you pack the wheel bearings? How often? With what grease? How do you do a correct pre-flight and what do you do when you find something abnormal? How do you set up the proper "rod roll" on a flight control bearing? How do you check engine compression, clean a spark plug? How do you check the play in the turbocharger compressor. What is allowed? General electronic trouble shooting? How do you test your ELT, change the battery? What does engine oil temp and pressure really mean? How do they relate to each other? Same with fuel pressure? Perhaps aircraft specific maintenance training on the Lancair IVP, Lancair ES, Lancair Legacy I have seen many questions and discussion about the hydraulics on the retract airplanes. Perhaps this is a specialty course? What about the landing gear shimmy on a Lancair ES? There are many topics all of which would only help us become better builder's and aircraft owners and have safer airplanes to fly. One thing is for sure. If your airplane is functioning correctly then many of the problems are minimized when things get tough. I have enough to worry about with myself. I certainly want to minimize the complications created by the mechanical aspect of this airplane I have made. I am sure there are members in these forums that are experts in all or many of these fields. I for one would welcome the opportunity to learn from you and try to make this fantastic world of amature built, high performance, aircraft a more safe and rewarding experience. I welcome your thoughts and comments. Sincerely, Bryan Burr N132BB "Only The Best With Mountain West!" Bryan J. Burr President Mountain West Helicopters, LLC 497 N. Quail Hollow Dr. Alpine, UT 84004 bjburr@mwheli.com http://www.mwheli.com tel: fax: (801) 216-4001 (801) 216-4004 Powered by Plaxo Want a signature like this? ------=_NextPart_000_023F_01C5559C.754E92F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
There = has been much=20 said recently following the NTSB report on Shannon's accident.  I = even=20 posted my feelings.  I continue to think about the situation of our = Lancair=20 airplanes (or other high performance, amature built, airplanes).  = For the=20 past two years I don't believe a week goes by that someone doesn't talk = about=20 flight training, emergency situation training, transition training, = engine=20 operating procedures, propeller feathering, etc.  It goes on and on = and=20 every post is valuable and every opinion has something constructive to=20 offer.  I try to learn something from these messages and appreciate = all of=20 your input.
 
One of = the things=20 that I learned about Shannon's accident was that his annual/condition = inspection=20 was due in June.  I am not going to say whether it was completed or = not.  But I do want to present a concern that I have.  As = stated above=20 I think the bases are covered on flight training.  It is up to us = as pilots=20 to get the best training possible to safely operate our airplanes.  = I have=20 not heard or read much about organized maintenance training, or = training=20 for the annual/condition inspections, or training on how to do a = good=20 preflight inspection, and what to do about correcting the defects found = during=20 these inspections.
 
As = builder's we have=20 the opportunity to receive a repairman's license from the FAA that = allows us to=20 perform all of the inspections and maintenance on our airplanes.  = We can=20 perform and sign off the annual/condition inspection and do all of the = other=20 maintenance that is required.  Do we, you and I, have the training = that=20 is necessary to perform these functions?  The FAA feels that = as the=20 builder you have the best knowledge about your airplane.  This is = why they=20 are willing to give the repairman's license.  But I venture to say = that,=20 generally speaking, we lack many of the skills and knowledge = necessary to=20 correctly identify and correct problems and implement=20 preventative maintenance on these aircraft?  I personally = feel I=20 know how my Lancair ES was put together but I really do not have the = knowledge=20 to do a proper annual/condition inspection of the engine, propeller, or = landing=20 gear.  So, I have a licenced A&P mechanic do these items for=20 me.
 
I = believe there is a=20 need for maintenance training for builder's.  Just like the = professional=20 flight training and engine operating training.  Perhaps a forum at = Oshkosh,=20 or Sun N Fun, or the other fly-ins is in order.  How = about more=20 than just breakfast or a $100 hamburger at the small get=20 together.  Couldn't we have a scheduled training session = on a=20 particular mainenance procedure in conjunction with our fly-in's?  = Some=20 items that I believe are important to be taught are:
 
Aircraft Maintenance=20 Log books,  How to construct one that is complete, fill them out = and how to=20 sign them. 
The = paper=20 trail.  The many sheets of paper that come with radios, repaired=20 instruments, new parts, old parts, yellow tags, red tags,=20 etc.
Component time=20 recording including service life, overhaul intervals, calendar life,=20 etc.
What = about=20 Airworthiness Directives, service bulletins, other maintenance=20 communications?
General aircraft=20 maintenance practices. Including safety wire, nut torque, bearing wear,=20 corrosion, general Part 43.13 practices.
How do = you change a=20 tire, balance a tire, inflate a tire?
How do = you service a=20 strut, bleed a brake? What is the allowed brake pad wear? =20
How do = you pack the=20 wheel bearings?  How often?  With what = grease?
How do = you do a=20 correct pre-flight and what do you do when you find something=20 abnormal?
How do = you set up=20 the proper "rod roll" on a flight control bearing?
How do = you check=20 engine compression, clean a spark plug?
How do = you check the=20 play in the turbocharger compressor.  What is = allowed?
General electronic=20 trouble shooting?
How do = you test your=20 ELT, change the battery?
What = does engine oil=20 temp and pressure really mean?  How do they relate to each = other? =20 Same with fuel pressure?
 
 
Perhaps aircraft specific maintenance training on the = Lancair=20 IVP, Lancair ES, Lancair Legacy
I have = seen many=20 questions and discussion about the hydraulics on the retract = airplanes. =20 Perhaps this is a specialty course?
What = about the=20 landing gear shimmy on a Lancair ES?
 
There = are many=20 topics all of which would only help us become better builder's and = aircraft=20 owners and have safer airplanes to fly.
 
One = thing is for=20 sure.  If your airplane is functioning correctly then many of the = problems=20 are minimized when things get tough.  I have enough to worry about = with=20 myself.  I certainly want to minimize the complications created by = the=20 mechanical aspect of this airplane I have made.
 
I am = sure there are=20 members in these forums that are experts in all or many of these = fields.  I=20 for one would welcome the opportunity to learn from you and try to make = this=20 fantastic world of amature built, high performance, aircraft a more safe = and=20 rewarding experience.
 
I = welcome your=20 thoughts and comments.
 
Sincerely,
Bryan=20 Burr
N132BB
 
 
"Only The=20 Best With Mountain = West!"
Bryan J. = Burr
President 		Mountain West Helicopters, = LLC
497 N. Quail Hollow = Dr.
Alpine, UT=20 84004
bjburr@mwheli.com
http://www.mwheli.com
tel: =
fax:=20 		(801) 216-4001
(801) = 216-4004=20 =
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