X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 01:46:50 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.208] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c4) with ESMTP id 867223 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 01:29:56 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.144.208; envelope-from=JIMRHER@aol.com Received: from JIMRHER@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38.7.) id q.1a9.35caf406 (3310) for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 01:29:09 -0400 (EDT) From: JIMRHER@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <1a9.35caf406.2f8e0825@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 01:29:09 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Engine Failure X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1113370149" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5011 -------------------------------1113370149 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Farnsworth wrote: <>Though the cost is slightly higher, I say again, a feathering prop is inexpensive insurance! <>Lynn Farnsworth, Super Legacy #235 (flying), <>TSIO-550, Race #44 Based on recommendations I purchased the MT 4-blade feathering prop. Now I am faced with having to shut down in flight and test the darn thing - or does anyone have ES (or even IV) glide ratio numbers comparing a wind milling prop and a fully feathered version? Robert M. Simon, ES-P N301ES To Robert and Lynn, others; I have the MT 4 Blade on my L4P. the difference in vertical decent with the engine at idle and going form Fine pitch to Course pitch is 3500 fpm. A giant difference. With the 4 blade it is like a brake at fine pitch. However, others have told me that at course pitch they calculated a glide ratio of up to 25 to One. amazing but the speed it up there. I needed a glide number to put in the SFS EFIS because it shows a blue glide range around the airplane, corrected for wind and terrain. We all agreed on a more realistic 15 to One. One caution that I can think of with a full feathering prop is that you need a unfeathering accumulator if you want to get it windmilling and started again, otherwise you only have the starter. That said, I think Brent and Orin both lost a Turbo hose while at altitude and the engine quit from too much gas. I think Bent finally got it started at a lower altitude before landing. He can tell the true story, maybe? If you need more than 25/1 glide ratio than a full feathering prop will help. My thoughts only, Jim Hergert N6XE (An Sexy) -------------------------------1113370149 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Farnsworth wrote:

<>Th<= FONT=20 face=3DArial>ough the cost is slightly higher, I say ag= ain, a=20 feathering prop is inexpensive=20 insurance! =20

<>Lynn Farnsworth, Super Legacy=20= #235=20 (flying), <>TSIO-550= , Race #44=20

Based on recommendations I purchased the MT 4-blade feathering=20 prop. Now I am faced with having to shut down in flight and test the d= arn=20 thing - or does anyone have ES (or even IV) glide ratio numbers comparing a=20= wind=20 milling prop and a fully feathered version?

Robert M.=20 Simon, ES-P N301ES

To Robert and Lynn, others;

I have the MT 4 Blade on my L4P. the difference in vertical decent with= the=20 engine at idle and going form Fine pitch to Course pitch is 3500 fpm. A gian= t=20 difference. With the 4 blade it is like a brake at fine pitch. However, othe= rs=20 have told me that at course pitch they calculated a glide ratio of up to 25=20= to=20 One. amazing but the speed it up there. I needed a glide number to put in th= e=20 SFS EFIS because it shows a blue glide range around the airplane, corrected=20= for=20 wind and terrain. We all agreed on a more realistic 15 to One.

One caution that I can think of with a full feathering prop is that you= =20 need a unfeathering accumulator if you want to get it windmilling and starte= d=20 again, otherwise you only have the starter. That said, I think Brent and Ori= n=20 both lost a Turbo hose while at altitude and the engine quit from too much g= as.=20 I think Bent finally got it started at a lower altitude before landing. He c= an=20 tell the true story, maybe? If you need more than 25/1 glide ratio than a fu= ll=20 feathering prop will help.

My thoughts only,

Jim Hergert
N6XE (An=20 Sexy)

-------------------------------1113370149--