Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #29102
From: George Braly <gwbraly@gami.com>
Sender: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [LML] Re: superchargers
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 21:03:42 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>

 

>>In an airplane, you simply turn it on when you climb through a given altitude and shut it off when you descend through the same level.<<

 

That is so impractical - - - and would so seriously increase pilot workloads - - as to evidence a lack of appreciation for the real world operating conditions involved in the operation of a high powered piston engine across the typical range of operating conditions.  

 

>>Add to this list:

        4)    Increase engine speed;

 

        5)    Reduce major combustion chamber radius;

 

        6)    Reduce/Alter combustion chamber turbulence;

 

        7)    Alter combustion chamber wall angles to reduce infrared and shockwave energy reflected into areas of instabillity.

 

8)        Relocate spark plug(s)<<

 

Rob,  I don’t think any of those fall into the category of   “bolt on”  modifications that are feasible for any of the existing engines,  which is where this discussion started.

 

To increase engine speed,  you have to figure out a way to let the prop blades go super-sonic in a noise sensitive area - -  or  install a gear box. 

 

>>Reductions in IAT from the intercooler will buy one  LARGE improvements in the  detonation limited BMEP (ie, more horsepower becomes usefully available).

That sounds a lot like something I said earlier. Your'e starting to agree with me.<<

 

Help me,  but I  don’t recognize that as anything you said earlier.    I thought your point was that intercoolers made more power by increasing the charge density  - - but had little effect on detonation.

 

The only reliable way to measure detonation “margins”  is to establish a detonation limited  mean effective pressure - -  and then to make changes in those things that affect detonation and see how much in excess of the previous  detonation limited  MEP you can go with whatever it is one has changed.    Running the boost pressure up doesn’t get you more power - - because the power is - - under those test conditions - - already detonation limited.   THAT is where I think we started.  

 

What one can do,  is to insert a well designed intercooler - - and then- - and ONLY then - - one can then run up the boost and obtain more power before one once, again,  runs into the detonation limited MEP.

 

Regards,  George

 


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