Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:28:46 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao10.cox.net ([68.230.241.29] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c3) with ESMTP id 812364 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:40:11 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.29; envelope-from=sportform@cox.net Received: from [10.0.1.2] (really [68.5.208.199]) by fed1rmmtao10.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050320163926.EEUW2123.fed1rmmtao10.cox.net@[10.0.1.2]> for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:39:26 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Original-Message-Id: <5753f657ecda9e4f048c836c69e01a4c@cox.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Barry Hancock Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Legacy speed brakes X-Original-Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 08:39:24 -0800 X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) On Mar 20, 2005, at 6:16 AM, Halle, John wrote: > Response to Barry Hancock: > > > < > Of course you are talking about an uncontrolled airport....damn, I > hate being outdone! :) >> > > > Acutally, my home field (HIO) has no problem with a break pattern. The overhead pattern "should be" a recognized pattern by controllers. Chino is obviously familiar but it grinds me to no end that they have a strict 1500' AGL rule on initial that they very seldom waive. As far as 240 kts in controlled airspace...remember the FAR's....One more war story: IFR from VIS to SAN out over the ocean just south of Orange County had the following exchange with SOCAL: > > "84BZ, are you a jet" > > "Negative" > > Well are you a turboprop" > > No, I'm just a miserable piston plane but pretty fast." > Yeah, I get "what type of Lancair *are* you?" a lot.... OK, have to share. A few weeks ago there were buildups around the Banning pass. The result was this little "cave" of clear air that was about half a mile wide and perhaps 4000' tall. I had SoCal telling me there was an Embraer at 4 o'clock, 1 mile, and a thousand feet above me....obviously headed for the same "cave". I didn't see him at first but he had a visual on me. Next call was a few minutes later. "That Embraer is now 4 o'clock, 1 mile, same altitude." This time I picked him up. To think that this big turbo prop was NOT gaining on me, while descending even, was uproariously enjoyable. I'm sure he was sitting there scratching his head thinking "how is that little thing keeping up with us." Gang, it is good to be us! :) Barry