Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:07:35 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.208] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c3) with ESMTP id 811699 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:50:52 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.144.208; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id q.1c3.24ba7430 (3972) for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:50:01 -0500 (EST) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <1c3.24ba7430.2f6ddc69@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:50:01 EST Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Randy's Day X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1111261801" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5000 -------------------------------1111261801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 In a message dated 3/19/2005 1:23:09 P.M. Central Standard Time, =20 lhenney@attg.net writes: When mine was certified in '98, the exact quote was "normal cruise" less than...? 200kts?. =20 Au Contraire, the limit for small numbers is 180 KIAS "cruise" speed. A=20 Lancarian once had a ramp check on a 360 just out of the paint shop where t= he=20 "inspector" would not let the aircraft fly unless it had foot high numbers= on=20 it. His reasoning, the Green line of the airspeed indicator went above 180= =20 Kts. The owner, in a deal with his own FSDO, had to alter his POH and the=20 green line to below 180. =20 I indeed have small numbers on my 320 and would use the following argument=20 if ramp checked: =20 cruise =20 (https://secure.reference.com/premium/login.html?rd=3D2&u=3Dhttp://dictionar= y.reference.com/search?q=3Dcruise&r=3D67) ( P ) _Pronunciation Key_=20 (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/ahd4/pronkey.html) (krz) v. cruised, cruis=B7ing, cruis=B7es=20 v. intr. =20 1. To sail or travel about, as for pleasure or reconnaissance. =20 2. To go or move along, especially in an unhurried or unconcerned =20 fashion.............:=20 3. To travel at a constant speed or at a speed providing maximum =20 operating efficiency for a sustained period.=20 I would emphasize "c." and then argue that the max operating efficiency is=20 below 180 KIAS (close to, but below). =20 I do not see how a Legacy equipped with a 300 HP engine could ever claim =20 that a sluggish 180 Kts was the max operating efficiency. =20 Good Luck at any future ramp check. =20 Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96 Aurora, IL (KARR) Fair and Balanced Opinions at No Charge! Metaphysical Monologues used at your own Risk. -------------------------------1111261801 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In a message dated 3/19/2005 1:23:09 P.M. Central Standard Time,=20 lhenney@attg.net writes:

<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>When=20 mine was certified in '98, the exact quote was "normal cruise"=20 less
than...? 200kts?.

Au Contraire, the limit for small numbers is 180 KIAS "cruise"=20 speed. A Lancarian once had a ramp check on a 360 just out of the= =20 paint shop where the "inspector" would not let the aircraft fly unless= it=20 had foot high numbers on it. His reasoning, the Green line of the= =20 airspeed indicator went above 180 Kts. The owner, in a deal with his o= wn=20 FSDO, had to alter his POH and the green line to below 180.

I indeed have small numbers on my 320 and would use the following=20 argument if ramp checked:

cruise ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kr 3D""

z)
v. cruised, cruis=B7ing,=20 cruis=B7es
v. intr.=20

To sail or travel about, as for pleasure or reconnaissance.= =20
To go or move along, especially in an unhurried or unconcer= ned=20 fashion.............:

To travel at a constant speed or at a speed providing maxim= um=20 operating efficiency for a sustained period.

I would emphasize "c." and then argue that the max operating=20 efficiency is below 180 KIAS (close to, but below).

I do not see how a Legacy equipped with a 300 HP engine could ever clai= m=20 that a sluggish 180 Kts was the max operating efficiency.

Good Luck at any future ramp check.=20

Scott Krueger=20 AKA Grayhawk
Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96
Aurora, IL (KARR)

Fai= r=20 and Balanced Opinions at No Charge!
Metaphysical Monologues used at your=20= own=20 Risk.

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