Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:20:19 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao12.cox.net ([68.230.241.27] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c3) with ESMTP id 800535 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:23:16 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.27; envelope-from=sportform@cox.net Received: from [10.0.1.2] (really [68.5.208.199]) by fed1rmmtao12.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050317172225.PTRB13819.fed1rmmtao12.cox.net@[10.0.1.2]> for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:22:25 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-19--371042044 X-Original-Message-Id: From: Barry Hancock Subject: Re: [LML] Legacy speed brakes X-Original-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:22:24 -0800 X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) --Apple-Mail-19--371042044 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > Here's a suggestion for simplifying the Legacy speed brake=20 > installation:=A0 glass over the pockets for them and fuggedaboudem.=A0=20= > Before starting N121J, I noted that the factory demo plane doesn't=20 > have speed brakes, and in 70 or 80 hours of flying mine, I never=20 > missed them.=A0 Keep it simple, right?=A0 And put the $4K or so into=20= > something useful, or another cool toy for your panel. I find them very useful for a couple of reasons. 1) Expedited descents without pulling off excessive power that will=20 shock cool the engine. If you fly around controlled airspace, this=20 will happen quite frequently. Or what about unexpected turbulence when=20= your in the yellow arc? 2) Scrubbing speed in the pattern. Even with that spinning disc out=20 front, this is a slick airplane that doesn't like to slow down. You=20 could argue that you can always plan to arrive in the pattern at=20 100kts. or whatever, but we are not machines and sometimes we get=20 distracted with other things (the 172 that just cut you off, or the=20 excessive radio chatter at an uncontrolled airport, etc.). 3) Any type of aggressive flying. I routinely come into the break at=20= my home airport at 199 knots (17 inches, slight decent). Break=20 mid-field, brakes out, MP to 12 inches, flaps 10 at 170 as I come onto=20= the down wind, gear at 135 and start the turn from downwind to final=20 from "the perch" (800 ft. AGL), flaps full at 120, speed break in=20 halfway (or so) through the turn, MP to 13 inches and I arrive on very=20= short final at 100 knots. I coudn't do this without the speed brakes. =20= Sure, I could come in on initial at 150 knots, but what fun is that!?!! Look, you can argue or discount any of the above, but since we're=20 sharing not so objective opinions, I just thought I'd chime in with=20 mine. I like the "paddles" and use them frequently, YMMV. Barry --Apple-Mail-19--371042044 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 ArialHere's a suggestion for simplifying the Legacy speed brake installation:=A0 glass over the pockets for them and fuggedaboudem.=A0 Before starting N121J, I noted that the factory demo plane doesn't have speed brakes, and in 70 or 80 hours of flying mine, I never missed them.=A0 Keep it simple, right?=A0 And put the $4K or so into something useful, or another cool toy for your panel. I find them very useful for a couple of reasons. 1) Expedited descents without pulling off excessive power that will shock cool the engine. If you fly around controlled airspace, this will happen quite frequently. Or what about unexpected turbulence when your in the yellow arc? 2) Scrubbing speed in the pattern. Even with that spinning disc out front, this is a slick airplane that doesn't like to slow down. You could argue that you can always plan to arrive in the pattern at 100kts. or whatever, but we are not machines and sometimes we get distracted with other things (the 172 that just cut you off, or the excessive radio chatter at an uncontrolled airport, etc.). =20 3) Any type of aggressive flying. I routinely come into the break at my home airport at 199 knots (17 inches, slight decent). Break mid-field, brakes out, MP to 12 inches, flaps 10 at 170 as I come onto the down wind, gear at 135 and start the turn from downwind to final from "the perch" (800 ft. AGL), flaps full at 120, speed break in halfway (or so) through the turn, MP to 13 inches and I arrive on very short final at 100 knots. I coudn't do this without the speed brakes.=20= Sure, I could come in on initial at 150 knots, but what fun is that!?!! Look, you can argue or discount any of the above, but since we're sharing not so objective opinions, I just thought I'd chime in with mine. I like the "paddles" and use them frequently, YMMV. Barry --Apple-Mail-19--371042044--