Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2005 11:08:37 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from lakermmtao02.cox.net ([68.230.240.37] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 772471 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 06 Mar 2005 10:40:38 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.240.37; envelope-from=Walter@advancedpilot.com Received: from [10.0.1.3] (really [68.227.132.71]) by lakermmtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050306153953.JXQE6521.lakermmtao02.cox.net@[10.0.1.3]> for ; Sun, 6 Mar 2005 10:39:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Original-Message-Id: <692be5c29628846dac37b71fc1bf604d@advancedpilot.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: W Atkinson Subject: Re: [LML] Re: FADEC Rough idle explanation X-Original-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 09:39:52 -0600 X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) Matt: OK, you'll get the beer. It has just become clear to me that we are talking about two entirely different issues. I hate trying to communicate over keyboards. Walter On Mar 6, 2005, at 9:26 AM, Marvin Kaye wrote: Posted for "Matt Hapgood" : Hi Walter. I'll take that beer. I guess the biggest difference between your situation and mine is: 1. My range is rarely limited by fuel (I carry over 5 hours worth) - the bladder and personal comfort is my limiting range. If I want to increase range for a really long flight, I just increase altitude and I can go for much longer than I care to be in the air (7 hours). 2. In a normally aspirated engine, 0.2 GPH is less than the altitude change from 8,000 to 9,000 feet. It's so rare I actually get my assigned altitude that, again, forecasting to 0.2 GPH just doesn't make any sense. Instead of forecasting an 8.1 GPH burn I'd rather forecast 9 GPH burn. I still carry 4.5 hours of fuel plus 1 hour reserve (longer than I want to be in the air). If I need more range, I'll plan a higher altitude - NOT a lower fuel burn. That's how I'd complete my mission. Because sure as I forecast 8.1 GPH and take on starting fuel according to that estimate, I'll get assigned a lower altitude, fight a stronger headwind, or get a screwy routing... all of which would cause me to SCRUB the mission. So as I see it, planning to a much tighter GPH would actually cause me to scrub more missions than it would enable me to achieve. Matt (and I said I was done with typing on this subject...). """ I'll bet you that if we could discuss this over a beer, we probably don't disagree. Keyboards are a terrible method of communication. Please allow me to try again. """ -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/lml/