Return-Path: Received: from [65.33.160.181] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.3c2) with HTTP id 771786 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 05 Mar 2005 15:28:43 -0500 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: Fuel Burn et al To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.3c2 Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 15:28:43 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "Jim Nordin" : Gary did a pretty good job in my view. And I'd like to further the discussion with reference to accuracy. First I want to tell you all I have no flame suit. After seeing recent messages on various subjects, I hesitate to make comments on the LML, perhaps others do as well. This is bad. But I'm going to make these and see how it goes. There is a perception, by many, that accuracy and precision is one in the same. While precision is not a topic of this discussion per se it might be good for everyone to have an appreciation for both, thus bringing all of us to a level understanding of both and we will all be better to express our views and ideas. Recently I read an article regarding accuracy and precision as it refers to GPS. Which also might be worthwhile having an appreciation for. [I've been trying to educate friends on the "accuracy" information on GPS packaging and literature for a long time.] Accuracy is a measure of the closeness of one or more "rate of burn" readings to a "rate of burn" that's known and defined in terms of an absolute reference system (how many gallons were left perhaps). The known reference often is referred to as the "true reference point" or in this case "rate of burn". Accuracy compares different measuring devices to a true "rate of burn", and hence to one another. [I guess to do this properly, one would have to get to altitude on one tank, switch to another tank, take the rate of burn readings onboard during steady state flight, switch to another tank after a measured period of time, land and determing delta gallons in the tank used during the reading period. Compare the rate of burn indicated on board with the usage over time as measured by fuel remaining.] Precision is a measure of repeatability indicating how closely several "rates of burn" readings fall within each other. Precision is based on a relative reference system that's unique to the device making the measurements. You can give the analogy: When dealing with target practice with a bow and arrow. If there is a tight grouping of arrows on the target in the upper left quadrant near the edge of the target, that grouping is said to be a precise grouping. Poor accuracy perhaps. Notice the tight grouping missed the bull's eye significantly. If a looser grouping were found around the bulls eye and the convergence was near the center of the bull's eye that would be said to be accurate. [Right on target?] Poor precision perhaps. If you were trying to hit a water filled balloon to deflate that balloon, you would want an accurate precise hit. For hitting all around the balloon might be categorized as accurate, you still didn't burst it. If a tight grouping of arrows were found in the bull's eye, that would be said to be an accurate precise grouping. Fly safe by establishing all limitations, accurately and precisely. Jim