Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:01:23 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from HQEMGATE03.nvidia.com ([216.228.112.143] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c1) with ESMTP id 723140 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 23:25:53 -0500 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.228.112.143; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net Received: from hqemfe02.nvidia.com (Not Verified[172.16.227.92]) by HQEMGATE03.nvidia.com id ; Wed, 09 Feb 2005 20:24:36 -0800 Received: from hqemfe03.nvidia.com ([172.16.227.123]) by hqemfe02.nvidia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 9 Feb 2005 20:25:32 -0800 Received: from thelma.nvidia.com ([172.16.228.84]) by hqemfe03.nvidia.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Wed, 9 Feb 2005 20:25:32 -0800 Received: from ccaselt (wireless-50-92.nvidia.com [10.31.50.92]) by thelma.nvidia.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA12497 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 20:25:07 -0800 (PST) X-Original-Message-ID: <005901c50f28$805d16e0$5c321f0a@nvidia.com> From: "colyncase on earthlink" X-Original-To: Subject: IVP brakes again X-Original-Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 20:25:07 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0056_01C50EE5.7208DBD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Original-Return-Path: colyncase@earthlink.net X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Feb 2005 04:25:32.0108 (UTC) FILETIME=[8EEF40C0:01C50F28] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C50EE5.7208DBD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff Edwards, I found this post you made earlier and was wondering if you found = and fixed a problem or not? thanks, Colyn ----------------------- Posted for VTAILJEFF@aol.com: I recieved a reply from Ralph Hartlaub at Cleveland Wheel & Brakes. I = met Ralph at the Lancair tent at Oshkosh. Hope you all can use the = information. Jeff Edwards LIVP N619SJ From: rhartlaub@parker.com Subject: Re: Lancair IVP Brakes Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:41:20 -0500 To: VTAILJEFF@aol.com Cc: jbakos@parker.com Hello Jeff I certainly do remember our conversation. The brake that you have is a 30-233. The 164-02504 is the brake disc part number. The 199--224A is a conversion kit (bill of material shown below) that upgraded the caliper from an organic to a metallic lining. The torque plate would be mounted with the same with either lining configuration. A simple check to determine if the torque plate is orientated correctly is to sight or lay = a straight edge on the outer surface of the brake disc. The torque plate anchor bushings should be approximately flush to +/- .050 above or below that surface. This can be accomplished using the proper length inboard bearing stop and torque plate oreintation. As you can see in the sketch below, if the torque plate were to move to the right relative to the = brake disc then eventually the torque plate could come into contact with the pressure plate thereby limiting the clamping pressure on the brake disc = as the pressure plate lining wears. If torque plate is located too far to the left then you may not have enough anchor bolt to torque plate = bushing engagement and will compromise the torque take out ability. See sketch below. If you have any questions, you should talk to Kit Components and have them send you installation information for your aircraft. (Embedded image moved to file: pic04530.pcx) The 40-406/30-233 has a KE rating for each wheel and brake of 425,000 ft-lbs at 80.76 mph and an IE of 1965 lbs. Unless otherwise specified by the aircraft manufacturer,typically the simplified mininum KE = requirements for a type certificated aircraft is defined by FAR part 23.735. Please see the information below. It has been copied from our 50-76 drawing = that is widely used by the experimental aircraft homebuilders to select products. (Embedded image moved to file: pic16672.pcx) Here is a copy of the parts that were furnished to upgrade, the 40-96E & 30-61E (organic lining) to the 40-406 & 30-233 (Metallic Lining) wheel = and brake configuration. (Embedded image moved to file: pic28256.pcx) Hope this helps out. Please contact our technical support group at 1-800-272-5464 if you assistance. Very best regards Ralph Hartlaub Technology Team Leader ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C50EE5.7208DBD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jeff Edwards,
    I found this post = you made=20 earlier and was wondering if you found and fixed a problem or = not?
 
thanks,
 
Colyn
 
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Posted for VTAILJEFF@aol.com:

I = recieved a=20 reply from Ralph Hartlaub at Cleveland Wheel & Brakes. I met Ralph = at the=20 Lancair tent at Oshkosh. Hope you all can use the = information.

Jeff=20 Edwards
LIVP N619SJ

From: rhartlaub@parker.com
Subject: Re: = Lancair=20 IVP Brakes
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:41:20 -0500
To:=20 VTAILJEFF@aol.com
Cc: jbakos@parker.com


Hello = Jeff

I=20 certainly do remember our conversation. The brake that you have is = a
30-233.=20 The 164-02504 is the brake disc part number. The 199--224A is = a
conversion=20 kit (bill of material shown below) that upgraded the caliper
from an = organic=20 to a metallic lining. The torque plate would be mounted
with the same = with=20 either lining configuration. A simple check to
determine if the = torque plate=20 is orientated correctly is to sight or lay a
straight edge on the = outer=20 surface of the brake disc. The torque plate
anchor bushings should be = approximately flush to +/- .050 above or below
that surface. This can = be=20 accomplished using the proper length inboard
bearing stop and torque = plate=20 oreintation. As you can see in the sketch
below, if the torque plate = were to=20 move to the right relative to the brake
disc then eventually the = torque plate=20 could come into contact with the
pressure plate thereby limiting the = clamping=20 pressure on the brake disc as
the pressure plate lining wears. If = torque=20 plate is located too far to
the left then you may not have enough = anchor bolt=20 to torque plate bushing
engagement and will compromise the torque = take out=20 ability. See sketch
below. If you have any questions, you should talk = to Kit=20 Components and
have them send you installation information for your=20 aircraft.

(Embedded image moved to file:=20 pic04530.pcx)


 The 40-406/30-233 has a KE rating for = each wheel=20 and brake of 425,000
ft-lbs at 80.76 mph and an IE of 1965 lbs. = Unless=20 otherwise specified by
the aircraft manufacturer,typically the = simplified=20 mininum KE requirements
for a type certificated aircraft is defined = by FAR=20 part 23.735. Please
see the information below. It has been copied = from our=20 50-76 drawing that
is widely used by the experimental aircraft = homebuilders=20 to select
products.

(Embedded image moved to file:=20 pic16672.pcx)


Here is a copy of the parts that were furnished = to=20 upgrade, the 40-96E &
30-61E (organic lining) to the 40-406 & = 30-233=20 (Metallic Lining) wheel and
brake configuration.

(Embedded = image moved=20 to file: pic28256.pcx)


Hope this helps out. Please contact = our=20 technical support group at
1-800-272-5464 if you = assistance.

Very best=20 regards
Ralph Hartlaub
Technology Team=20 Leader


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