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The ATC guys don't care that you are an experimental, and they don't car= e to know the difference between an ES and a Columbia 400, since they are i= n effect the same airplane as far as they are concerned.   My poi= nt was that it's an FAR that you communicate "experimental" to a tower, and= putting this in remarks will most likely satisfy that requirement.  T= his FAR goes way back before there were home built kit airplanes, and someo= ne else on this list explained pretty closely why that was a requirement, s= ince "experimental" used to mean danger, handle with care.   Now = with the hombuilts it's not necessary, controllers would rather know what t= ype you are.   If you just say experimental, you could be a 100 k= not single, or a twin engine jet these days.   If you insist on s= aying that you are an experimental, then at least say you are an experiment= al Lancair. 

Ron Galbraith

LNCE-N5ES


> just put experimental in remarks.  That w= ay the information is
> automated to the guys who need that informat= ion (the ones at the
tower).
>
Jim,

>So the tower wo= uld handle a Lancair with a standard certificate
>(Columbia 400) dif= ferent than an ES with an experimental certificate? 
>Is not th= e type sufficient to know the capabilities of the aircraft?


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