Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 09:59:59 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from asmtp-a063f33.pas.sa.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.149] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.2) with ESMTP id 421017 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 19 Sep 2004 00:36:11 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.217.120.149; envelope-from=skipslater@earthlink.net Received: from lsanca1-ar17-4-61-195-028.lsanca1.elnk.dsl.genuity.net ([4.61.195.28] helo=skipslater) by asmtp-a063f33.pas.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C8tQK-00019w-NC for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:35:41 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <002801c49e02$72471200$6401a8c0@earthlink.net> Reply-To: "Skip Slater" From: "Skip Slater" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] AOA X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 21:31:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01C49DC6.D88E33E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-ELNK-Trace: cbee950bdf563876c8ad50643b1069f8239a348a220c26091bff63c77245926f91901ca0d1918171350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 4.61.195.28 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C49DC6.D88E33E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "I wouldn't have one on my plane. It's not worth it's weight." Mark, That is one of the most ignorant and irresponsible statements I've = EVER read on the LML. As an ex-Navy pilot who learned to dogfight and land on boats using = nothing but AOA, I can tell you that my AOA was the FIRST thing I bought = for my plane. I flew AOA primarily throughout my military career and am = heartened that I now have an AOA display on the PFD and HUD in the = airliner I fly. American Airlines paid through the nose for that = technology and to me it'll be worth it's weight in gold if I should ever = encounter windshear, wake turbulence, airspeed indicator failure or a = few other things I can't think of at the moment. It also indicates L/D = max should I ever have an engine failure in my ES and want to optimize = my glide. Your summarization that having an AOA somehow substitutes for stall = training or recovery is equally off base. Of course it doesn't- it's a = tool, just like a stall warning indicator is. AOA, properly used, tells = the pilot when the wind is producing it's maximum lift for any weight, = altitude or CG. That's a good thing to know. If you choose to leave AOA off your plane, that's your choice. = Mocking pilots for what you presume is their reason for installing one = in their planes is wrong and shows a startling lack of understanding of = what a valuable addition AOA can be to planes like ours. Skip Slater =20 ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C49DC6.D88E33E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

"I wouldn't have one = on my=20 plane. It's not worth it's weight."

Mark,

That is one of the most = ignorant and=20 irresponsible statements I've EVER read on the LML.

As an ex-Navy pilot who = learned to=20 dogfight and land on boats using nothing but AOA, I can tell = you that=20 my AOA was the FIRST thing I bought for my plane. I flew AOA = primarily=20 throughout my military career and am heartened that I now have an AOA = display=20 on the PFD and HUD in the airliner I fly. American Airlines = paid=20 through the nose for that technology and to me it'll be worth it's = weight in=20 gold if I should ever encounter windshear, wake turbulence, airspeed = indicator=20 failure or a few other things I can't think of at the moment. It = also=20 indicates L/D max should I ever have an engine failure in my ES and want = to=20 optimize my glide.

Your summarization that = having an AOA=20 somehow substitutes for stall training or=20 recovery is equally off base. Of course it doesn't- it's a tool, = just like=20 a stall warning indicator is. AOA, properly used, tells the pilot = when the=20 wind is producing it's maximum lift for any weight, altitude or = CG. That's=20 a good thing to know.

If you choose to leave AOA = off your=20 plane, that's your choice. Mocking pilots for what you presume is = their=20 reason for installing one in their planes is wrong and shows a startling = lack of=20 understanding of what a valuable addition AOA can be to planes like = ours.

Skip Slater

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