Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 20:06:04 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m17.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.207] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b5) with ESMTP id 146517 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 09 Jun 2004 19:51:40 -0400 Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r2.6.) id q.39.48ec3a2e (18555) for ; Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:51:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <39.48ec3a2e.2df8fc6c@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 19:51:08 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Rutan tries for 100-km. suborbital flight with SpaceShipOne X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1086825068" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 910 -------------------------------1086825068 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/9/2004 6:33:03 PM Central Standard Time, hwasti@starband.net writes: Remember the axiom: For the loss of the nail, the horseshoe was lost. For the loss of the shoe the horse was lost. For the loss of the horse the rider was lost. For the loss of the rider the battle was lost. For the loss of the battle, the war was lost. For the loss of the war, the kingdom was lost. Yes, I do mean to tell you that the whole kingdom was lost because someone said "It is just a stupid little nail....." Hamid, Wrong application of an old analogy - This is the one used to reinforce the concept: break the chain of events before it leads to disaster - When the horseshoe was lost, plan B should have been used - grab the nearest motorcycle! The nail was missed in the pre-ride checklist. Rutan has not remained motionless because he waited for everything to be TSO'd (as if that makes things perfect) and neither will I. That's why we fly aircraft called experimental - amateur built. It is not that you choose to use trash, it's that you understand you are not placing "faith" in a failure free manufacturer - like Cessna for instance. However, I must admit, success does require some thought and a willingness to accept the results of a failed experiment. Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk Sky2high@aol.com II-P N92EX IO320 Aurora, IL (KARR) LML, where ideas collide and you decide! -------------------------------1086825068 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In a message dated 6/9/2004 6:33:03 PM Central Standard Time,=20 hwasti@starband.net writes:

<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Remember=20 the axiom: For the loss of the nail, the horseshoe was lost.
For= the=20 loss of the shoe the horse was lost. For the loss of the horse
t= he=20 rider was lost. For the loss of the rider the battle was lost. = For=20
the loss of the battle, the war was lost. For the loss of the wa= r,=20 the
kingdom was lost. Yes, I do mean to tell you that the whole=20 kingdom was
lost because someone said "It is just a stupid little=20 nail....."

Hamid,

Wrong application of an old analogy - This is the one used to=20 reinforce the concept: break the chain of events before it=20 leads to disaster - When the horseshoe was lost, plan B should have bee= n=20 used - grab the nearest motorcycle! The nail was missed in the=20 pre-ride checklist.

Rutan has not remained motionless because he waited for everything to b= e=20 TSO'd (as if that makes things perfect) and neither will I. That's=20 why we fly aircraft called experimental - amateur built. It is no= t=20 that you choose to use trash, it's that you understand you are not=20 placing "faith" in a failure free manufacturer - like Cessna for=20 instance. However, I must admit, success does require some thought and=20= a=20 willingness to accept the results of a failed experiment.=20

Scott Krueger=20 AKA Grayhawk
Sky2high@aol.com
II-P N92EX IO320 Aurora, IL=20 (KARR)

LML, where ideas collide and you=20 decide!

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