Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #24115
From: <edechazal@comcast.net>
Sender: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: Safety
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 23:59:31 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
I read Gary Casey's message about safety and aircraft improvements with interest.  I'm a mechanical engineer in the automotive world, but since I was born with my mother's ability to put together a semi-coherent sentence, I was drafted into Marketing (horrors!).  Anyway, when I was a practicing engineer, I was pretty sharp.  Sharp enough to think that most of Gary's improvement suggestions are best left on the idea shelf for the factory to pick through.
 
Speaking as a 360 builder/flyer, I think the best thing we can do is build these planes to the plans.  Then get fresh eyes to look over our shoulders.  Then get a test pilot to make the first flight and train us into the airplane.  Then fly within our training (and the plane's) limits.  I thought maintenance went without saying, but evidently that must in fact be said.  If you go adding things like geared rudder pedals to backstop an egregious error elsewhere, where's the sense in that?  That rudder cable is not going to break no matter how hard you apply the brakes.  But it will come off the firewall attach if you didn't fasten it properly or didn't swage the end properly.  Or if you cut it part way through while fixing something else.  Pay attention and follow the manual carefully.  On the other hand, your time consuming gear system adds weight, friction, lots of time, and new failure modes most likely far scarier than what it was intended to solve. 
 
Likewise, don't go adding extra bids, especially of a dissimilar material like unidirectional carbon, unless you are a structural engineer and have modeled the structure and your contemplated change.  We've talked about this one before.  Stiffening one area can chase loads and failures to unexpected places.  Don't mess with a design that has demonstrated itself to be successful.  Sure, if your test flight shows you've got a heavy wing, fix it with one of the usual fixes (small flap adjustment for instance).  Learn what your plane does at the stall and then stay away from that.  Count yourself lucky if the stall characteristics don't frighten you.  These aren't training airplanes. 
 
It would be different if the design was brand new and untested.  Then, maybe your individual expertise may be substantial when compared to the body of knowledge and experience manifest in the flying airplane population.  But that's not the case now, I would suggest.  Not because your abilities are diminished, but because hundreds of airplanes and a decade plus of experience and successful performance say you'll be hard pressed to improve on it.  It's far more likely you'll create new and nasty problems.
 
On the other hand, do serve up your suggestions to the factory.  They are in the best position to determine value and could incorporate them into a new model, if the ideas are really worthy.  I would not want to conclude that we can't learn regarding the design, but leave the modifications to the few people who really know what they are doing (that's not us).  Rather, we should spend our time building well and flying well.  That's time well spent.  By the way, obviously non-structural, non-aerodynamic changes are fine.  If you aren't sure you know the difference vs. changes that affect aerodynamics or the structure's performance (or any other aspect of function like fuel delivery), just stick to the plans. 
 
Best,
Ed de Chazal
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