Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 15:43:30 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: <5zq@cox.net> Received: from lakemtao04.cox.net ([68.1.17.241] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2920052 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 15:36:18 -0500 Received: from OFFICE ([68.110.249.147]) by lakemtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP id <20040106203618.TIBZ19895.lakemtao04.cox.net@OFFICE> for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 15:36:18 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <013101c3d494$b70ee1c0$6501a8c0@OFFICE> From: "Bill&Sue" <5zq@cox.net> X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Hobbs Meter X-Original-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 15:36:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_012E_01C3D46A.CC122930" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_012E_01C3D46A.CC122930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This timer was used for some of the maintenance, don't remember which. = The purpose of this post is to ask anyone if they are familiar with this = type of flight "timer" and where to get one as I think I would like to = add one on my aircraft for all of the obvious reasons. Hello Gary, Yes, ALL official AIRCRAFT time (airframe and engine) is Time In = Service. The device that you described would accurately record TIS. Most = GPS's will do exactly the exact same thing (start timing at a certain = airspeed).=20 All official (civilian) PILOT time is Flight Time. This includes taxi = (for the purpose of flight) time. Most hobbs meters are connected to an oil pressure switch or perhaps = just the master switch and measure neither TIS nor FT.=20 Airliners have the ACARS looking at the parking brakes and the squat = switch. That way the out/in times are recorded for pilot times (we get = paid according to this time) and the off/on times are recorded for = aircraft maintenance time. Bill Harrelson 5zq@cox.net N5ZQ LNC2 Dogwood Airpark, Fredericksburg, VA ------=_NextPart_000_012E_01C3D46A.CC122930 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
This timer was used for some of the = maintenance, don't=20 remember which. The purpose of this post is to ask anyone if they are = familiar=20 with this type of flight "timer" and where to get one as I think I = would like=20 to add one on my aircraft for all of the obvious=20 reasons.
 
 
 
 
Hello Gary,
 
Yes, ALL official AIRCRAFT time = (airframe=20 and engine) is Time In Service. The device that you described would = accurately=20 record TIS. Most GPS's will do exactly the exact same thing (start = timing at a=20 certain airspeed).
 
All official (civilian) PILOT time is = Flight=20 Time. This includes taxi (for the purpose of flight) time.
 
Most hobbs meters are connected to an = oil=20 pressure switch or perhaps just the master switch and measure neither = TIS nor=20 FT. 
 
Airliners have the ACARS looking at = the parking=20 brakes and the squat switch. That way the out/in times are = recorded for=20 pilot times (we get paid according to this time) and the off/on = times are=20 recorded for aircraft maintenance time.
 
Bill Harrelson
5zq@cox.net  N5ZQ  = LNC2  Dogwood=20 Airpark,  Fredericksburg, VA
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