Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:43:06 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from a34-mta02.direcway.com ([66.82.4.91] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2892658 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 00:29:20 -0500 Received: from C1 (dpc691916001.direcpc.com [69.19.16.1]) by a34-mta02.direcway.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with SMTP id <0HPZ0029P38O44@a34-mta02.direcway.com> for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 16 Dec 2003 00:29:19 -0500 (EST) X-Original-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 21:29:14 -0800 From: Bill Hogarty Subject: Turbine vs IV-P X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Original-Cc: Bill , Brad X-Original-Message-id: <004501c3c395$8efc7900$4ab0040a@C1> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_PWrHChaMvEG2I5+5YF5cgQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_PWrHChaMvEG2I5+5YF5cgQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT For Noel Motta: I did locate the data comparing operating costs between the LIV-P and the LIV-PJ and it was from Lancair last year. Since my scanner just died, I will include only a short synopsis. The comparison was based on an 800 NM flight at both 18,000' and at 24,000' and included fuel/engine/ and airframe costs(i.e., overhaul cost/hr, oil cost/hr, tires and brakes) . At 18,000' the turbine averaged 266.7 kts while the IV-P averaged 250.5 kts. The direct expense for the trip was $ 253.84 for the turbine and $ 238.57 for the IV-P. At 24,000', the speed for the turbine was 322.0 kts while the speed for the IV-P was 280.7 kts. The trip cost for the IV-P was $ 243.33 while the turbine was $ 246.37. As you can see, fast is fun and higher is better....HOWEVER I would certainly take these figures with a very large grain of salt. If you would like a copy of the data, just send me your address. Regards, Bill Hogarty --Boundary_(ID_PWrHChaMvEG2I5+5YF5cgQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

For Noel Motta:

I did locate the data comparing operating costs between the LIV-P and the LIV-PJ and it was from Lancair last year. Since my scanner just died, I will include only a short synopsis. The comparison was based on an 800 NM flight at both 18,000' and at 24,000' and included fuel/engine/ and airframe costs(i.e., overhaul cost/hr, oil cost/hr, tires and brakes) .

At 18,000' the turbine averaged 266.7 kts while the IV-P averaged 250.5 kts. The direct expense for the trip was $ 253.84 for the turbine and $ 238.57 for the IV-P.

At 24,000', the speed for the turbine was 322.0 kts while the speed for the IV-P was 280.7 kts. The trip cost for the IV-P was $ 243.33 while the turbine was $ 246.37.

As you can see, fast is fun and higher is better....HOWEVER I would certainly take these figures with a very large grain of salt.

If you would like a copy of the data, just send me your address. Regards, Bill Hogarty

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