Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:15:10 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: X-SpamCatcher-Score: 1 [X] Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.98] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2890301 for marv@lancaironline.net; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:20:39 -0500 Received: from N295VV@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id q.184.23de43a7 (3310) for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:20:32 -0500 (EST) From: N295VV@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <184.23de43a7.2d0dcbaf@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 09:20:31 EST Subject: Re: LIV Flight Cost X-Original-To: marv@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1071411631" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5003 -------------------------------1071411631 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmm, Well you had better add to Scott Kruger's fine list: Cost of 550 Engine Top Overhaul at 350 hours instead of 1500 Hours: $9000 Cost of instrumentation or parts that go awry early: $40/hr Cost of rebuild of airframe and loss of use when some club member does something stupid: $25000++ Lawyers Fees fighting club member's widow's lawsuit: $100,000+ Please excuse me for appearing to be negative--I fly a LIV, I it scares the hell out of me to think that one would be available to novices in a club setting. It glides like a stone; it must be continually kept on top of; it is not a platform for a novice doing IFR; and these are only three things that will dump it. To be even VFR proficient in it, it should be flown 1-2 hours a week. As an aside to the question, I think my personal per-hour cost is at least $200, and I am nursing cylinders that started to poop at 250 hours. Again, sorry to be so negative--some times I just can't help myself! dj -------------------------------1071411631 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hmm,

Well you had better add to Scott Kruger's fine list:

Cost of 550 Engine Top Overhaul at 350 hours instead of 1500 Hours:&nbs= p; $9000

Cost of instrumentation or parts that go awry early: $40/hr

Cost of rebuild of airframe and loss of use when some club member does=20= something stupid:

$25000++

Lawyers Fees fighting club member's widow's lawsuit: $100,000+

Please excuse me for appearing to be negative--I fly a LIV, I it scares= the hell out of me to think that one would be available to novices in a clu= b setting.

It glides like a stone; it must be continually kept on top of; it is no= t a platform for a novice doing IFR; and these are only three things t= hat will dump it. To be even VFR proficient in it, it should be flown=20= 1-2 hours a week.

As an aside to the question, I think my personal per-hour cost is at le= ast $200, and I am nursing cylinders that started to poop at 250 hours.

Again, sorry to be so negative--some times I just can't help myself!

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