Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:27:44 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp.perigee.net ([166.82.201.14] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2886972 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:04:00 -0500 Received: from john-study (dsl-208-26-41-68.perigee.net [208.26.41.68] (may be forged)) by smtp.perigee.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBBN3xSi016455 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:04:00 -0500 X-Original-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:03:56 -0500 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] Re: high key References: From: John Schroeder Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Original-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera7.23/Win32 M2 build 3227 A point about 1/3 down the runway (touchdown aiming point) from which one would begin a 360 degree descending circle and land. It was basically a 360 degree overhead pattern started at an altitude (F-105 was 12,000 AGL) that would permit 250 KCAS to be carried throughout the circle. You dropped the gear at high key or held it until you made the profile (usually if you did not have the high key altitude to begin with). You played the diameter of the circle to give you 6,000 ft at the 180 degree point and 3000 at the 270 point.Flaps came down when you had the runway made. Speed brakes were as necessary. Ram air turbine was put by the pilot when the engine quit. It ran one of the two flight control systems - barely. One guy had big engine problems and did a bonafide SFO at Norvenich AB, Germany, near Cologne, and when he put the ram air turbine out on short final, the flight controls seized. He bailed at about 500' AGL and made it. This is probably more than you bargained for, but it may be informative. Cheers, John > Please define "High Key" for us non-airforce guys. > > Bob Smiley