Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 08:02:26 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net ([63.231.195.113] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with SMTP id 2784538 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 05:41:27 -0500 Received: (qmail 79159 invoked by uid 0); 5 Dec 2003 09:53:26 -0000 Received: from mpls-pop-02.inet.qwest.net (63.231.195.2) by mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net with QMQP; 5 Dec 2003 09:53:26 -0000 Received: from 65-100-161-163.dnvr.qwest.net (HELO marauder) (65.100.161.163) by mpls-pop-02.inet.qwest.net with SMTP; 5 Dec 2003 10:41:27 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 03:41:32 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <000201c3bb1c$5a0f33d0$0400000a@marauder> From: "Mike Hutchins" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List (E-mail)" Subject: Vortex Generators MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Hi Tom, One way to avoid significant drag penalties with vortex generators is to align the long axis of the raised tab with the local airflow during cruise flight. As the lift surface angle of attack is increased, the spanwise airflow increases, thus increasing the angle of incidence of the vortex generator to the local airflow, resulting in vortex formation. This arrangement, however, requires the use of aligned vortex generators that produce corotating vortices (and is commonly used on commercial aircraft), and thus might be subject to the sort of adverse behavior mentioned in Scotts post. Another method to limit the cruise drag contribution of vortex generators is to reduce their height to the minimum necessary to achieve the desired effect. In some cases, it is only necessary to extend the tab just halfway through the boundary layer. Remember, however, that at the lower speeds commonly associated with higher angles of attack, the boundary layer will be thicker than at the higher speeds associated with cruise flight. It's all about the compromises you are willing to accept and the shape of the performance envelope you are comfortable living within. If you want improved low speed performance and are willing to sacrifice some high speed performance, then vortex generators may be the right modification for you. Maybe slightly larger flaps or wing extensions would accomplish the same goals with fewer negative effects. Maybe the same results could be achieved with the center of gravity moved farther aft. Best Regards, Mike Hutchins