Return-Path: Received: from [65.33.162.138] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.1.8) with HTTP id 2774321 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:26:44 -0500 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] De-ice System on IV P To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.1.8 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 21:26:44 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000001c3b46b$f10590c0$8014a8c0@comp20intel28> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "F. Barry Knotts" : It's a reasonable question. I fly out of Toledo, Ohio. It's got to be Ice Central, USA. Seven months of the year it is a constant threat, the other five months of the year, just possible. I don't like it. I have a C340 that is fully de-iced, carries ice reasonably well, and I NEVER, NEVER fly into very likely icing conditions. (Which is different than "known icing" or "forcast icing.") I spend alot of time going over the weather products when I flight plan. There are a lot of new products that help. (Check out http://adds.aviationweather.noaa.gov/icing/ and http://aviationweather.gov/exp/cip/ ) But, if I think that icing is likely, I drive or don't go. Now that keeps me out of icing most of the time, but once or twice a year I get into it. There's nothing more reassuring while you're looking for non-icing air in a climb or descent or turn, than to see the boots kick off flakes of ice. IMHO, in my neighborhood, de-icing equipment is mandatory if you want to fly 12 months of the year. On the other hand, I used to fly out of San Diego...never saw icing, never got into it, and didn't need de-icing equipment. So a lot depends on where you are, and where you are going. Can you not go? What's your risk tolerance? Would you mind staying overnight in Wheeling and going on to Detroit tomorrow? If you plan to fly into the Great Lakes or Pacific Northwest regions often, (You didn't mention where you are based.) do it. I'm not familiar with Ice Management Systems, but I'm going to educate myself. Looks like another reason I need to hit the lottery. Good luck! Let us know what you decide and if you install it, how the installation goes. Barry Knotts LIV-P, Conti TSIO-550, 20% (& jealous of your 95%!) >>>For those of you who are veterans of winter cross-country flying - is installing such a system something that should be seriously considered?