Return-Path: Received: from pm05sm.pmm.cw.net ([208.159.98.154]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 17 Mar 1999 22:58:52 -0500 Received: from oemcomputer (usr17-dialup43.mix1.Sacramento.cw.net [166.55.7.43]) by PM05SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35323) with SMTP id <0F8R00D9AV5C4H@PM05SM.PMM.CW.NET> for lancair.list@olsusa.com; Thu, 18 Mar 1999 04:00:53 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 20:05:18 -0800 From: "Aircraft Designs, Inc." Subject: Flutter To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Message-id: <002201be70f4$8ac5c2e0$2b0737a6@oemcomputer> X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Dear Aviators, I have been abused by someone who does not have the courage to state = his name. This person works for Scale Technology Works (STW) which is a = sister company to Scale Composites and he has worked for Lancair. He = makes a number of false statements which I would like to clearify. His = first statement "Martin contracted Sam McIntosh to show him how to do = flutter analysis on the Lancair IV" is false. During the design phase of = the Lancair IV, I told Lance that we had to do a flutter analysis on the = L-IV. I contacted Sam and after talking to Sam for half a year I got = his price down $28,000. This was too high for Lance. So I asked Sam if = I would perform the finite element analysis (fea) and he would perform = the flutter analysis what his price would be. He stated $12,000. The = next day, I told Lance that I would perform the fea at a cost of $3,000 = for a total of $15,000. for a complete flutter analysis. He agreed and = we did the analysis. At this time I was working on a military program = and was able to obtain the source code for the FASTEX program from NASA. = To check the answers that Sam had come up with, I (with the help of = others) converted the flutter part of the FASTEX program to run on a PC = and I used this program and the help of the Flight Dynamics Lab at = Wright Patt. They were a big help to me. We all came up with the same = answer. I was responsible for the complete analysis of the L-IV and = there was no room for error. Not at the speeds that this aircraft flys. = I gave Sam my flutter program which I called SAF and Sam purchased the = NISA fea program from me since I was a dealer for this program. "Sam did = not teach me how to perform a flutter analysis." I had spent 3 years on my Master thesis design rotor blades for = helicopters. I performed a flutter analysis and a ground vibration test = (gvt) on the rotor blades I built for my Sportster. I also learned to = perform fea while working at Ford Aerospace, Lockheed, FMC, and finally = at Kaiser Electronics where I performed random vibration analysis on head = up display systems for the F-14, F-18, F-15 and many other aircraft. = This was way before I helped Lance on the L-IV. Most of the homebuilders cannot afford a flutter analysis and as such I = have tried to make it affordable. This is important since many = accidents occur each year because of flutter. In fact it is so = important that I have given a number of classes on this subject and I am = the only one at Oshkosh to hold a forum on this subject. I have also = written a book on the subject and I sell my SAF program at a very = reasonlable price. See my web site at www.aircraftdesigns.com. = Unfortunately, in many cases I have performed a post crash flutter = analysis in which the flutter problem could have been prevented. I performed the initial flutter analysis on the ES at no charge. When I = performed the flutter analysis on the Stallion wing using fiberglass I = found a very low critical flutter speed. As such I used graphite which = is stronger and stiffer than fiberglass. I also contacted Lance and = told him of the low flutter speed. Lance did not want to believe me so = I told him to contact someone else other than me. I told him to have my = analysis varified by Sam which he did. Sam's results were never made = public nor were any of the other analysis performed by others. Now for another wopper from Mr. X at STW. He states that "Some builders = were modifying the 360 aircraft and contracted Martin to do the flutter = analysis." Lance never contracted me to do the flutter analysis on the = 360, the builders did and they chipped in to pay me. We did this because = some of the builders were using large engines and flying at cruise = speeds over 220 kts. We also did this because a number of major mods = had been perfomed on the 360 such as a bigger tail and a bigger wing. = It was a prudent and good decision since we now know what the critical = flutter speeds are for this aircraft with the different mods. The last statement that Mr. X makes that makes me suspicious of his = qualifications is, "I believe the 360s are safe in regards to flutter if = built according to plan." Safe from flutter is only relative to speed, = altitude, fuel loading, gross weight. If you point the nose down and = apply full power you can easily exceed the flutter speed of the 360, or = for that matter, most other aircraft. It is important to know what the = never exceed speed is for your aircraft based on flutter and structural = reasons and then not to exceed that speed. Last but not least, the flutter method I use and the computer program I = own and sell is used by most major aerospace companies such as Boeing, = Northrup, Lockheed, NASA, and McDonnel Douglas. It is one of the very = few standards in the industry. I would like to invite each one of you to attend my flutter forum at = Oshkosh. See my web site for date and time under News. If you have any = questions on flutter please call me any time at 831-649-6212. Then make = up your mind on who you want to believe. God bless. Martin Hollmann