Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #19262
From: Ron Jones <ron@baronboys.com>
Sender: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [LML] Legacy glare shield/dust shield
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:59:39 -0400
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Subject: [LML] Legacy glare shield/dust shield

"Don't know how many of you have had a problem with this. I have been fitting the center console and setting the panel / dust shield in place. I would close the canopy and at first the panel / dust shield sat way too high. I have had to cut away the entire lower flange and about 1/8" more to get the canopy to close without contacting anything. I have seen Don Barnes had to do this and was curious if this is a common problem."

John Link
 
 
I'd like to throw in my two cents on this one. Yes, this is a common problem.
 
As you noted, the problem is fitting the center console, instrument panel, and glareshield underneath the curve of the canopy. It's a puzzle, and it's a tight fit. Very tight. Things just do not fit in the space available without some trimming. You must complete your canopy and install it before you finalize the installation of your center console.
 
I had to lower my center console both by cutting off the flanges and lowering it down onto the spar, and  also cutting off the top of the console, removing material, and bonding the top back into position. This is per Lancair's recommendations. I also trimmed away part of the flange on the instrument panel. Finally, I've had to butcher my glareshield because it doesn't fit the curve of the airplane's fuselage.
 
No matter what you do, don't make anything final until you put all the parts together in the airplane and test their fit. Don't forget to allow for paint and upholstery.
 
I, too, was concerned about leg room reduction. I am 6' tall, but I still have plenty of leg room. It's just not a problem for me. I think that even a taller person would be fine, too,
 
Of course, lowering the center console lowers the seat pan supports. This impacts on the available space under the seats. I have an autopilot servo located in this space, plus there are control rods, fuel/hydraulic lines, etc. Therefore, you probably cannot lower the seat this much. This results in a fairly big micro release on the curve of the seat pan support (the part built into the center console). It appears that most builders are doing it this way.
 
I also had a problem with the center seat pan supports. They were not the same height, to the tune of 3/8" difference. Lancair had no explanation for this anomoly. I had to cut off the flange of one of them (I chose the higher of the two), trimmed it down, then glassed the flanges back into position. If I didn't tell you about it, then you'd never know by looking because both supports now appear identical. This is something else to consider.
 
When I got to the point of installing the seat pans, I cut a board the width of the fuselage. I used this to align the outboard seat pan supports and the center seat supports (without the center console). Once all four parts were aligned (we're going for level here), I clecoed the outboard supports in position. After bonding the outboard and center supports, I had to build up a micro release on the center console so that the seat pans would sit flush and also level. I used the seat pans themselves to determine the shape. I put weights in each seat pan while the micro was curing.
 
While I'm on this subject, my seat pans also didn't fit right. The beveled flanges were too short, too long, at the wrong angle, etc. They looked crummy. I cut off the flanges, then made new ones from carbon cloth, using the seat supports and spars as the guides. Now everything fits together correctly. I may have been a little fussy with this last item, but it just didn't sit well with me that the pans didn't just drop into position and lie down nice and flat. Now they do.
 
Hope that helps.
 
Ron Jones
Lancair Legacy N1969L, Kit #181
 
 
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