Return-Path: Received: from [65.33.85.126] (account ) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.1b8) with HTTP id 2435567 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:10:07 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] Cabin press flapper valve To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.1b8 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:10:07 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <003701c33663$06229de0$6601a8c0@cp172883-b.arlngt01.va.comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "Bob Pastusek" : Cabin press flapper valve Phil, This is a common problem that I've observed in every IV-P that I've flown. I believe it is a result of the dynamics of the pressurization start up process. The flapper closes when you start bleeding engine air into the cockpit with the door seal inflated, but as soon as it does, pressure builds up in the passageway coming from the tail and forces the flapper open. As soon as this ram air pressure dumps into the cabin, the increasing cabin pressure snaps the flapper shut again. Eventually, the cabin pressure builds up enough to hold the flapper closed against the ram air pressure from the tail scoop and it stops cycling. I have an automatic air valve in the tail in my (uncompleted) airplane--part of the airconditioning system--that should eliminate this problem for me, but before I went this way, had considered installing a Ray Allen (or similar) trim servo to positively open and close the flapper valve. This could be tied to the cabin door seal pump switch, or the pressurization controller power switch (probably better) so it would essentially operate "automatically" when you pressurize. Some added weight, expense and complexity to overcome a small problem, but this should do the trick if you want to eliminate this noise. Good luck, and let us know what/if you find a good solution--many could benefit. Bob Pastusek