Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #19203
From: Mike Custard <flybymike@empnet.com>
Sender: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: A/Cs for Lancairs, to scoop or not to scoop.
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:02:19 -0400
To: <lml>
    I think that anyone interested in buying an A/C system or as we like to call it in the Lancairs " life support system " should do their homework. I have installed and used both systems, two of the Airflow systems in my earlier days and several of the Aero Cool systems now. I have tested both systems in the Dominican Republic, New Orleans, Florida and across the U.S. to Oregon and have found that both systems work equally as well in all temperatures. It is simply a question of whether you want a scoop on the bottom of your plane or not. I found that the Airflow system puts the CG a little forward and the engine driven Aero Cool system doesn't change it at all because the pump and mounting brackets mount on the front of the engine, about 15 lbs. and the condenser mounts in the tail. When we install the condenser in the tail we also remove the pressure compensator and install the elevator push rod conversion system that I build and have sold to more than 50 Lancair IV-P builders. This eliminates about 3-5 lbs. from the tail. Both systems require about the same amount of labor, installing the condenser in the tail of the plane after the top is glued on is not much fun but neither is laying on your back gluing on the scoop, bid taping the edges, micro fill, body working and the paint. Other than that they are about the same.
    The weight of our fan by no means weighs more than  the fiberglass scoop. I think that both systems weigh about the same, at least close enough. We have started using new smaller and lighter hoses with re-usable fittings that has lightened our system and made the hoses much easier to run through the fuselage and the fittings do not require a crimper. Since I also fly the planes, I know that the scoop slows the plane down. But, does 5 kts really matter when your flying at almost 300 KTAS, that's up to the buyer. As far as comprimising the structual integrity of the plane, boy there's a long shot, we installed the Aero Cool system with the two holes in the bottom in the last Turbine that we built. The plane has a few times seen over 310 KIAS, yes indicated at low altitude, with a sharp pull up at the end of the pass and a comfortable wing over.
    There is nothing magic about one from the other, they both work exactly the same.  So it really just boils down to, do you want a scoop or no scoop.
    Last comment, I just think it is little tacky for someone to knock another persons product simply to try and make theirs look better. Let's leave that to the politicians!!
 
Mike Custard
Aero Cool, LLC.
Advanced Aviation, Inc.
 
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