Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 19:30:12 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.74] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1b4) with ESMTP id 2336780 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 07 May 2003 17:42:06 -0400 Received: from sdn-ap-003watacop0208.dialsprint.net ([63.187.208.208] helo=f3g6s4) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19DWfs-0000u0-00 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 07 May 2003 14:42:04 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <002701c314e1$dfcda7e0$d0d0bb3f@f3g6s4> Reply-To: "Dan Schaefer" From: "Dan Schaefer" X-Original-To: "Lancair list" Subject: Re: Electrical System - Battery Charging X-Original-Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 14:44:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Brent wrote: "Therefore there is another term for "desulfating", it is called "Charging". ALL battery chargers, when used on lead acid batteries, by definition, "desulfate" the batteries they are charging." True, Brent, but not the whole story. Long story short, there are levels of sulfation that can form (for several reasons) that will resist reversal by a standard charger. Allowing a lead-acid battery to sit in the discharged state for as short a time as a week or two is the primary reason for the formation of the difficult (if not impossible) to reverse sulfation, while other reasons are secondary. Working with Dr. Dave Vutetakis (a battery guru) of The Battelle Institute during development of a Sealed Lead Acid Battery (SLAB) for the B1-B, I learned that the only way to reverse the destructive type of sulfation was to use what was referred to as a "Hot-shot" charger, and then only with spotty results. The Hot-shot charger (for a 28 volt battery) is basically a 100 volt dc power supply with a resistor in series sized to limit the short circuit current to less than about an amp (for a 15 - 20 amp hour battery). Destructive sulfation reversal, if successful, takes up to a couple of days and the only way to tell if it worked is to do a deep discharge followed by a normal charge and then a capacity check. If you're lucky the battery may recover most of it's capacity, some however never do and it's probably due to the severity of the sulfation. Bottom line, I guess is, don't leave your battery sitting around in a discharged state - fly it or otherwise keep it topped up as required and, barring other abuses, it should last quite a while. Dan Schaefer