Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net> (Marvin Kaye)
To: lml
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 16:35:18 -0500
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From: "Ted Stanley" <ted@vineyard.net>
Subject: Zetex 600 adhesive
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Brent and others -

There are probably several adhesives that might be used to bond Zetex 600 to
whatever but I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents worth.

Brent mentioned using 3M #77 and saying "Caution. The solvent in S77 will
loosen the adhesive holding the
aluminum foil to the cloth of the Zetex if you get it too wet. Perfect your
technique on a sample piece."

You might reconsider and use 3M #80 instead which offers two specific
advantages.

First is the temperature limit is 200F for the #80 vs. only 110F for #77.

Second is that since #80 is neoprene based it's plasticizer resistant. Some
adhesives when used in close proximity with vinyls, other adhesives, or
other plastics can create a chemical migration causing bond failure. A
typical application for #80 where it works well (and others fail miserably
over time) is bonding plastic headliner material to interior panels. I used
#80 about 7 years ago when I installed a new headliner in my Baron and it's
still firmly attached. The thing to remember here (and any adhesive as well)
is that while you may achieve a good bond in the short term; heat and other
environmental factors can result in loss of bond strength or even failure
over time if you choose the wrong adhesive relative to the substrate.

For further info on 3M products go to

http://www.3m.com/US/

Brent is quite right, don't over-saturate the fabric with adhesive. Try
spraying on a light coat and letting it dry for several hours. This should
create a barrier for the next coat.

3M #80 is available from McMaster-Carr and presumably other sources.

Merry Christmas to all,

Ted Stanley