Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:30:16 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtprelay1.dc3.adelphia.net ([24.50.78.4] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.1) with ESMTP id 1871695 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:01:56 -0500 Received: from worldwinds ([207.175.254.66]) by smtprelay1.dc3.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H5MH8102.J05 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:50:25 -0500 From: "Gary Casey" X-Original-To: "lancair list" Subject: MP and rpm X-Original-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:47:10 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal <<..causes the piston rings to slap back and forth in their channels in the pistons. This could lead to breakage of the rings. another post: ..instructor was very clear that BAD things would happen if I ever ran more RPM's than manifold pressure.>> I don't know where all these things get started, but I suspect it's because people have a natural desire for simple answers to complex questions. Some even come from otherwise-respected "experts." Just think of a 4-stroke engine operating - half of the strokes occur with essentially no pressure in the cylinders. In a motoring condition the compression pressures are probably between 100 and 350 psi, depending on manifold pressure, still a substantial pressure. Actual full-load firing pressures are maybe 900 psi. The only real additional stress from high-rpm running is from the tensile forces in the connecting rod, but those exist on half the strokes anyway. Cam lobes typically wear out at the tips and the loads on the tips are greatest during cranking and idle. Engines with fixed pitch props spend most of their life at low MP and high rpm (I would run my old Cherokee at less than 20" and 2700 rpm all the time). The TSIO 550 runs at MP way "over-square" all the time. Piston rings wear because of forces on the cylinder caused by pressure and other reasons. They break for a variety of reasons, some related to ring-land wear, some from over-heating and often from built-in inclusions. I'm not even sure I believe in "shock cooling." What about "shock heating" when you go from idle to sustained full power in a couple of seconds? What about the shock cooling every time you shut the engine off? Flying into rain? On Indy race cars one way to "read" the plugs was to shut the fuel off while the engine was running flat out - never seemed to hurt anything. I think engines just wear out mostly from combined mechanical and thermal stress and that pretty much comes from horsepower-hours. One good way to make the engine last longer is just to slow down, but that's no fun. Gary Casey ES