Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:19:24 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp.comcast.net ([24.153.64.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.1) with ESMTP id 1861021 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:15:46 -0500 Received: from cp172883-b.arlngt01.va.comcast.net (pcp735631pcs.arlngt01.va.comcast.net [68.50.58.204]) by mtaout04.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.5 (built Sep 23 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H5G008IYSU6CH@mtaout04.icomcast.net> for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:15:43 -0500 (EST) X-Original-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:18:18 -0500 From: Bob Pastusek Subject: FW: [LML] Re: LIVP mixing valve alternative X-Original-To: JohnP@arlingtoninstitute.org X-Original-Cc: lml@lancaironline.net Reply-to: rpastusek@htii.com X-Original-Message-id: <006b01c28a4d$f741e180$6601a8c0@cp172883-b.arlngt01.va.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_8j5StruOSObwn9OHplnQYA)" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_8j5StruOSObwn9OHplnQYA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT John, I missed your original post on this and just ran across Bill's reply while searching for something else. Jim White and I have built air conditioner units into our IV-Ps during construction. The configuration sounds much like Bill Hogarty's, except that I mounted the evaporator inside the pressurized cockpit. As we're here in Arlington, VA (our "hobby shop" is actually in Alexandria), we'd be happy to show you what we've done. I agree with Bill that this is a pretty extensive undertaking--especially if you've already put the top on the plane. Not impossible, but you'll have to deal with fitting several large components in very small places... Call me at 703-271-1962 if you want to come have a look, or just talk about this. Bob Pastusek -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Billhogarty@aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 11:33 PM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] Re: LIVP mixing valve alternative In a message dated 7/13/02 6:02:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, JohnP@arlingtoninstitute.org writes: . In particular I'm wondering if anyone knows whether the heat/ac system from a car could be easily adapted to a LIVP. Could the automobile air diverter and mixing devices (which already operate on 12v and have a nice looking three-knob control assembly) perhaps be cut down/adjusted for this plane? John L. Petersen N60JP LIVP 703-812-7900 Fx 703-812-0900 John I added A/C to my IV-P but during the building stage; not afterwards. I chose to use the entire output of the cold air duct (enlarged from 3" to 4") in the tail to cool the condenser which is mounted under the baggage floor. I added a 4 " blower to make sure the condenser got sufficient cooling air, when stopped, taxi, and low speed operation. The evaporator is mounted in the rear of the plane and the cold air is vented into the cabin thru the 6 outlets in the overhead console. The comperssor is mounted on the rear of the engine using a TCM bracket. Its rather a simple system. However, I dont think that I would like to install it after the plane was completed unless I did my own work and liked an immense challange. Be happy to provide details if I havent discouraged you. Regards. billhogarty@aol.com --Boundary_(ID_8j5StruOSObwn9OHplnQYA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
John,
 
I missed your original post on this and just ran across Bill's reply while searching for something else. Jim White and I have built air conditioner units into our IV-Ps during construction. The configuration sounds much like Bill Hogarty's, except that I mounted the evaporator inside the pressurized cockpit. As we're here in Arlington, VA (our "hobby shop" is actually in Alexandria), we'd be happy to show you what we've done. I agree with Bill that this is a pretty extensive undertaking--especially if you've already put the top on the plane. Not impossible, but you'll have to deal with fitting several large components in very small places...
 
Call me at 703-271-1962 if you want to come have a look, or just talk about this.
 
Bob Pastusek
 
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From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Billhogarty@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 11:33 PM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Re: LIVP mixing valve alternative

In a message dated 7/13/02 6:02:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, JohnP@arlingtoninstitute.org writes:


.  In particular I'm wondering if anyone knows
whether the heat/ac system from a car could be easily adapted to a LIVP.
Could the automobile air diverter and mixing devices (which already operate
on 12v and have a nice looking three-knob control assembly) perhaps be cut
down/adjusted for this plane?

John L. Petersen
N60JP  LIVP
703-812-7900   Fx  703-812-0900




John
I added A/C to my IV-P but during the building stage;  not afterwards.  I chose to use the entire output of the cold air duct (enlarged from 3" to 4") in the tail to cool the condenser which is mounted under the baggage floor.  I added a 4 " blower to make sure the condenser got sufficient cooling air, when stopped, taxi, and low speed operation.  The evaporator is mounted in the rear of the plane and the cold air is vented into the cabin thru the 6 outlets in the overhead console.  The comperssor is mounted on the rear of the engine using a TCM bracket.    Its rather a simple system. However, I dont think that I would like to install it after the plane was completed unless I did my own work and liked an immense challange.

Be happy to provide details if I havent discouraged you.  Regards.

billhogarty@aol.com
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