Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 04:36:22 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com ([204.127.202.62] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b9) with ESMTP id 1801804 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 02:12:02 -0400 Received: from primary ([12.234.209.102]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021010061203.GIHU6765.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@primary> for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 06:12:03 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <002b01c27024$35eaa960$66d1ea0c@attbi.com> From: "Larry Graves" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Delaminations X-Original-Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 23:11:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Ed, It is worth finding out why you had the delaminations. My first thought about your elevator trailing edge was to wonder if the internal compartments had inadvertently become sealed. It any compartments inside your stab, rudder, wings, etc., are not vented to the outside ambient pressure, then they will overpressure as your altitude increases. This invariably leads to a debonding failure somewhere. Trailing edge bonds are a likely victim. I've seen this on several airplanes. As for the aileron counterweight BID delaminations -- although it's hard to know without seeing them firsthand, a possible explanation is that there may have been a contamination problem on the forward face of the aileron prior to completing the reinforcing BID layups. It's unusual for fiberglass to delaminate along the entire length of a layup - even in a highly loaded application - if the surface prep is adequate prior to making the secondary bond. Sanding, then wiping with acetone (wet rag then dry rag immediately after) should do the job for most secondary mechanical bonds. Best, Larry Graves ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Lancair Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:32 PM Subject: [LML] Delaminations