Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 09:48:25 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net ([24.50.78.6] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b8) with ESMTP id 1793119 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 09:34:09 -0400 Received: from worldwinds ([207.175.254.66]) by smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H35HOV0C.G02 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 09:34:07 -0400 From: "Gary Casey" X-Original-To: "lancair list" Subject: V8's, liquid cooling X-Original-Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 06:32:20 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal <> The TCM liquid-cooled engines shared the same design with their air-cooled ancestors, with lots of space between cylinders. Each cylinder was still a separate entity with a full coolant jacket, all connected by external plumbing and consequently the engine is heavy compared to the air-cooled version. A liquid-cooled engine designed from scratch would have little or no clearance between cylinders and have a much shorter, lighter crank. And hence be competitive with the air-cooled equivalent. <> It certainly can be done. However, oil cooling has a number of disadvantages to overcome. First, oil is about 80% as dense as water, so it requires 25% more volumetric flow to have the same mass flow rate. Second, the specific heat of oil is only about 0.5, half that of water, so it requires twice the mass flow if the temperature rise is to be the same. Finally, oil is more viscous, reducing the turbulence at the boundary layer. This turbulence is what pulls the heat from the metal. The advantage of oil cooling is that it can be run at higher temperatures, reducing the required air flow through the radiator (except that you have to pump a lot more oil than water through, which again increases the overall size. Increasing the percentage of cooling done by the oil can have some advantages. Spraying oil on the underside of the pistons removes heat from the source, reducing piston temperatures and reducing the amount of heat that has to be transferred through the rings and piston skirt. Finally, I think George mentioned that air cooled engines typically can achieve a lower BSFC than liquid-cooled (automotive) engines. Existing aircraft engines are certainly close to the optimum configuration. They have large cylinders, open combustion chambers, dual plugs and high surface temperatures. The only problem with this is that the compression ratio that can be run is limited. The automotive engine can attempt to overcome its disadvantages with a higher compression ratio. The nod probably goes to the aircraft-type air-cooled engine when it comes to BSFC. I believe a purpose-designed liquid cooled engine would be equivalent, maybe better. Gary Casey