Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:08:57 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com ([204.178.16.49] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b7) with ESMTP-TLS id 1714160 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:07:56 -0400 Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (H-135-104-2-10.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10]) by crufty.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7TI7qLI025866 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:07:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nslocum.cs.bell-labs.com (nslocum.cs.bell-labs.com [135.104.8.38]) by scummy.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g7TI7kk63406 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:07:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nslocum.cs.bell-labs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nslocum.cs.bell-labs.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g7TI7jjq70669315 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:07:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rae@localhost) by nslocum.cs.bell-labs.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g7TI71RF111518865 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:07:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:07:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Rae McLellan X-Original-Message-Id: <200208291807.g7TI71RF111518865@nslocum.cs.bell-labs.com> Subject: Frank LLoyd Wright's Fallingwater X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net >> Cy Galley Editor, EAA Safety Programs wrote: >> "Your example of Wright's "Falling Waters" is poor. It did fail." > > (actually it's "Fallingwater" - one word & no "s") > > I have pilgrimaged to Bear Run no less than 14 times. Each time I > visit I find something new and wonderful to experience. I'm sure scores > of people who have visited the site from all over the world during its > 66 year history would agree. ... when was the last time you visited fallingwater? I believe Cy Galley was referring to the September 2000 article in Scientific American by Robert Silman entitled: "The Plan to Save Fallingwater" In that article, it describes the miscalculation of moments in the cantilever section of deck overlooking the river and the repairs performed over the years to shore it up. It may be still standing, but SciAm article suggest that it may not be so for long without intervention. Being a joy to experience is orthogonal to being structurally sound. What does it matter how many people have enjoyed its appearance if it collapses? If what you are buying are dreams then the Zehrbach engine may be a good investment in your case. He apparently is offering something that you want. Are you believing it because it is real? or because you want it to be true? If you've got the money, then by all means, put it in a plane and fly it. Make your dream come true. And I hope the money is truly disposable, because that may well be what you're doing with it.