Return-Path: Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.66]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:57:27 -0500 Received: from N295VV@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id QWLJa01428 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:58:36 -0500 (EST) From: N295VV@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:58:36 EST To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Subject: Re: LIV Stall Characteristics X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> From: n295vv@aol.com (n295 v v @aol.com) Regarding stall characteristics of the LIV, I can only report on my plane. The stall is so docile that you dont feel, see it, or notice it. No wing drops. Nothing. I have flown it at 60 kts with no observable excursions. The trouble is that it indeed is in a stall -a flat forward stall that you can't feel, but when you look at the VSI, the plane is dropping at a thousand or more feet per minute and you are level as heck. Compared to my Mooney that would drop the nose 295' the first second, and if you were at all uncoordinated, would do a snap roll into a vicious spin, this is quite different. My guess is that the characteristics of the LIV may depend upon whether the wings were built at the same time with the spars bolted together (as mine was), or whether each wing was built separately at different times with jig reversals. It may also depend upon the placement and inclination of the wings when they were attached to the fuselage. Am I happier with a docile, flat stall? Not necessarily. I just have to remember not to do any inadvertant slow flight, as all of us do. On the other hand, my plane would stay upright, I hope, in the event of a severe bleed off of air speed on landing such as a wind shear problem, rather than flipping and auguring the wing into the ground. Now, all said, does this have anything to do with Martin's NACA profiles? Who knows?..... David Jones, Pecatonica, Illinois